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To: Southern Federalist
I will have to go find the Francis column that your quote is from and see all that he has to say on the definition of paleocons before I could comment on it.

As for the quote from Buchanan's book I really don't have a problem with it as I understand what he is saying. There has never been a perfect human society since the Garden of Eden so when one person cites an example of a better time someone else can always find fault with it. The period before the 60's revolutions is frequently berated for being sexist, racist, etc. and this is one so called arguement used against Buchanan's lament frequently. Funny, I have heard Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams both say how much better life in America was in this very time frame. Obviously they see some virtue worthy of longing for and I seriously doubt they wish for a return of Jim Crow. There may have been some good come out of the last 30-40 years but there has been much change for the worse. Buchanan is right, there are two America's culturally and one is dying off. I can't condemn someone for mourning the change.

About Novak being a Democrat - not sure how that is important but anyway I heard him explain that since he lives in DC and there is no chance Republican candidates could get elected he is a Democrat so his vote has some influence - he tries to keep the worst of 2 Dem's out of office.

63 posted on 03/25/2003 10:29:46 PM PST by u-89
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To: u-89
The problem isn't that they think the Fifties were better than today. In some ways they weren't, but in many ways they were. The problem lies in the fact that they say there is nothing left of traditional America in today's America, which is false. They correctly state that the social "revolutions" were harmful, but they falsely state that they were ubiquitous.
66 posted on 03/25/2003 10:37:05 PM PST by Wavyhill
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To: u-89
Buchanan did not simply "mourn the change" he has seen in American culture. I'm critical of lots of things in American culture, so is everyone on FR. What Pat said was that "the good country we grew up in" has been replaced with "a cultural wasteland and a moral sewer that are not worth living in and not worth fighting for --their country, not ours."

Those are the words he wrote and published. Your attempt to wiggle around them is not convincing. I stand by what I said.

93 posted on 03/26/2003 4:53:01 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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