I offered you evidence that something went on in NY/NJ that night to support his not challenging the host on this point.Regarding the assertion that there were NO celebrations by Muslims.... Looks like there are liars everywhere (including my relative who relayed her story to me)! ;-) FReegards folks!
Some were dancing in the street on 9.11, muslim employees at St. Joseph's Hospital, Paterson, were seen smiling. The Passaic County Sheriff dispatched 80 officers to break up the dancing and to stop a potential riot.
54 posted on 03/18/2003 12:24 PM EST by Coleus linkBesides the fact that Paterson was home to some of the 9/11 hijackers, could it be because Paterson was the town where Arabs were found to be hooting and partying it up upon hearing of the Sept. 11th horror?
You may recall that the situation was so bad that the chief of police asked the media to retract the stories, not becaue they weren't true (there were several eye witnesses,) but becaue he was afraid that angry Americans would burn the entire town to the ground in retaliation for the behavior of these people.
73 posted on 03/18/2003 2:10 PM EST by Motherhood IS a career
There were celebrations in the streets of NJ. They were quickly 'hushed up' and relabeled 'incidents of persecution of Muslim citizens'. Well, yeah. Lots of Puerto Ricans got murdered and they took it kinda personally when Muslims celebrated in Jersey City. They were gonna put a beat down on the celebrators until somebody called the cops. Puerto Ricans don't take crap from anybody...much less people that celebrate the death and destruction of their fellow Puerto Ricans...
Friend of mine is a cop in Jersey City that got called to the initial 'disturbance'. Course, he's a nice Catholic so I'm sure he's *lying* to make the Muslims look bad...
94 posted on 03/25/2003 9:57 PM EST by Black Agnes
but believe me when I tell you that in Paterson, NJ the day of the bombing (9/1) that a large group of people of Middle Eastern descent were dancing in the streets and celebrating! *indymedia of all places!*
Rumors circulated about Muslims dancing in the streets of South Paterson in celebration upon hearing of the attacks. According to some of my longtime Muslim friends and colleagues who live and worship in the area, this simply was exaggerated. With the exception of a handful of zealots, most people took to their mosques to pray and heal their heavy hearts. *clearly* states the celebrations occurred. edu_pdf
But when I drove through the streets of Paterson, NJ the day after the attacks, and I witnessed the celebration of Muslims in the streets, my skin crawled and I grew sick to my stomach. Reports of such acts abroad were to be expected. web_log
From DanielPipes.org
What is the evidence for the claim that Muslims were celebrating 9/11 in the
mosques of New York? I have done extensive research on this question with
respect to rumors of celebrations in Paterson, New Jersey and found that the
rumors were false (as were rumors of celebrations in nearby New Jersey
towns and cities: Verona, Cedar Grove, Little Falls, Newark, Jersey City, etc.)
As far as NJ is concerned, there is nil evidence of a coverup. I interviewed
every single reporter involved, and found not a single one who could plausibly
be accused of covering anything up. In fact, the Herald News (Paterson) and
Star-Ledger (Newark) quoted two eyewitnesses respectively (Rev Jack Copas of
Totowa, Emaad Abdullah of Clifton) who claimed to have seen "something" take
place on the streets of Paterson on the afternoon of 9/11. These claims of having seen "something" later ballooned into wild rumors of "Muslim celebrations" and even riots. But what Copas and Abdullah saw were not "celebrations." I should add that Lee Leonard had claimed on Channel 11 that celebrations had taken place, as had several radio stations (WINS,WABC, WPLJ). No coverup there. The rumors were
passed on by columnists in the LA Times and New York Post, as well as by a
Rabbi Stanely Asekoff of West Orange, who still hasn't bothered to remove the
sermon in which he made the claims:
http://www.uscj.org/njersey/w-orange/Rav/5762_Sermons_High_Holy_Days/First_Day_Rosh_Hashannah_5762.htm I happen to know what it is that the eyewitnesses saw, because I got my information from one of the people involved. Bear in mind that Abdullah, who is a Muslim, took a remarkable risk in saying that he had seen anything at all; the city government was saying that absolutely "nothing" had taken place. (So, by the way, was the NJ Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith.) All of this was reported, and all
of it is available in the public record. There is no evidence whatsoever of a coverup
in NJ, despite the number of times such a thing was alleged.
I looked into celebration rumors in Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Florida,
Michigan, and California. I didn't find a single actual celebration. All I found were ...
rumors: the same pattern as I studied in detail in
New Jersey. The Wall Street Journal's Jeffrey Zaslow did a story in March (I
believe) finding much the same thing.
In light of this, it's hard to view claims about "celebrations" taking place in
this country on 9/11 in the absence of any real evidence for them
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/670I can supply you with blogspots and FReeper posts that argue that we never landed on the moon.
Don't insult my intelligence.
On that day, hundreds of police officers and firemen died, along with thousands of citizens, yet, strangely, there isn't a verifyable report of "street demonstrations" by ANY MEDIA, or ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, at ANY TIME, ANYWHERE to substantiate this.
It's a BIIIIIIG conspiracy!!!
I don't have a doubt in my mind that some celebrated the attacks on 9/11, I also have no doubt n my mind that they celebrants weren't all Muslims, and that quite a number of "Americans" rejoiced as well.
I do not believe that they celebrated in the streets of New Jersey...and lived to talk about it.
If they did, we are a bunch of pansies.
But to sit here and believe that on a day when blood rage ruled, that Muslims could stage mass street demonstrations ANYWHERE in the US celebrating the attacks, with nothing more than vague rumours left behind is incredibly stupid.