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Memo to celebrities: Keep your war opinions to yourselves
The Seattle Times ^
| Thursday, March 20, 2003
| Erik Lacitis
Posted on 03/25/2003 9:02:05 AM PST by van_erwin
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I think the author makes a good point here. Whether I agree with a celebrities' opinions or not, the point is that these people are spouting off from ivory towers, and in pretty much every case are completely unqualified to comment. Like he says, please just SHUT UP!
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:02:05 AM PST
by
van_erwin
To: van_erwin
Interesting that by far most of the celebrities spouting off are shouting anti-war drivel, yet this author seems to focus his rage mostly on those supporting the war.
Oh well, I'm sure it's just my clouded VRWC lenses again.
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:05:46 AM PST
by
Coop
(God bless our troops!)
To: van_erwin
Why is it any less legitimate for celebrites to comment in fora that are open to them than it is for the rest of us to comment on fora such as FR? I mean, I'm much smarter than Madonna, but I have no more military training or expertise.
If you want to blame someone, blame the media which give celebrities a forum; better yet, blame the people who demand celebrity "news" and make it profitable for the media to provide it.
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:07:21 AM PST
by
merrin
To: van_erwin
Does this guy get paid to write?
To: big bad easter bunny
He tells conservative celebrities to shut up. Au contraire they need more air time.
To: Coop
I noticed the same thing. It seems like he really wanted to just go after the pro-war stuff, but threw just enough stuff in there about Madonna to give the faintest hint of "balance".
To: van_erwin
I would like to believe this guy means what he says, but when liberals start call for "all sides" to do something, it's because "their side" is losing ground. Yeah, I'd like it better if all celebrities just shut up and sang, acted, whatever, but they started it, so our guys will end it.
So I say to Clint, Toby, Darrell, Kid Suck...uh, I mean Rock, Charlie, et al., keep it up! The commie, hippie, dumbass war protesters (and their cheerleaders in the criminal, liberal mainstream media) are starting to buckle. What you're saying is hitting harder and scoring more points with the American people than anything Hollyweird, Melloncrap, the Beastie BitchBoys, and the Blixie Chunks are saying.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:16:26 AM PST
by
wku man
To: van_erwin
Articles like this make me smile. I just love it when we get under thier skin and they spout off like this.
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:19:21 AM PST
by
Prysson
To: goldstategop
In my opinion, he's telling all the celebrities to shut up. I don't want to hear Babs whine about her pseudo-Shakespeare quotes. I'm also offended when I hear some singer who never served in the military puff up his chest and act like war's a big p***ing match.
We're going in to take out an evil regime and liberate an oppressed people, making the world a safer place for everyone. In the process, people are going to die. Most of them are evil, and have to be killed for the safety of the world. Sadly, some have been (and still will be) our own sons and daughters. They are heroes, and deserve honor and our eternal gratitude from here to heaven.
To me, that doesn't include creating opportunities for country singers to sell t-shirts.
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:21:39 AM PST
by
van_erwin
To: van_erwin
I agree with your point.
To: Media Insurgent
then maybe someone with real perspective and real knowledge would get air and print time. Someone like Walter Cronkite, or some historian types.Tells you all you need to know about this guy's IQ.
Yeah, just what the world needs - more Cronkite's and Kerns-Goodwins'.
To: van_erwin
I knew the article was crap when he said we should listen to Walter Crapkite.
To: van_erwin
This would be the same dittohead who'd do everything possible to keep his son out of the Army, if we reinstated the draft.
Bullsh!t. I do not know ONE conservative who would do such a thing.
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:39:37 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: van_erwin
So let me get this straight: you're not allowed to have an opinion on the war unless you've had military service?
Okay, all you men out there - you are no longer allowed to hold any views on "reproductive rights." (God, I hate that phrase.) After all, since you've never been pregnant . . .
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:40:48 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: Xenalyte
Of course you can have an opinion. This is America. I am just saying that it's offensive to hear someone treat war like a pep rally. This war was our last resort, and no one wanted it to come to this, but it had to. President Bush did not send our troops in just to give CNN ratings, or to sell t-shirts.
I did not serve in the military, but my brother did. There are a lot of things I don't comment on, because I simply don't understand the way he does. You'll never hear him put down his country or question the judgement of his commanders. You'll never hear him cheer for death, either.
I'm behind our President, our troops, and our great nation. Part of what makes us great - what makes us different from Iraq - is that we do what has to be done, but when we go to war, we do so with a heavy heart.
Godspeed our troops, and let this terrible time pass soon. Let the world become a better place, and let our souls not be stained by the evil that we fight.
To: van_erwin
Didn't mean to direct my comments at you - intended them for the author.
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posted on
03/25/2003 9:54:49 AM PST
by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: van_erwin
It's interesting that the "celebrities" who can't keep their mouths shut are all from television, film or pop music. You never hear about superstar athletes, like Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, etc., making comparable fools of themselves despite the fact that they have at least as big if not bigger fan followings.
I think the reason is because media celebrities as part of their job often portray important, educated, erudite, influential personalities in their movies, shows, songs, etc., despite the fact that for the most part they are a bunch of moronic high-school dropouts. They have actually come to believe that they share the characteristics of the people they portray. Professional athletes are under no such delusion. The media celebrity publicist profession obviously knows how to exploit this facade with their fanbase.
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posted on
03/25/2003 10:14:53 AM PST
by
Ozone34
To: van_erwin
Actually, in most of the cases discussed in this and other articles, the stars themselves are not to blame for spouting their opinions. Their blame tends to be in the form of being stupid.
With the exception of those like Barbara Streisand, Madonna, Clint Black and Hank Williams Jr., the stars have almost all simply answered questions asked by the media, who then choose to present these opinions as if they had some value.
In an ideal world, people who were uninformed would realize that and just answer with "I don't know". But most of these stars haven't done anything different than we do. They get pulled in to a conversation and share their thoughts. The difference is that nobody cares what we think enough to publish it.
The stars are guilty of stupidity. The media are guilty of treating fools like sages.
To: Ozone34
I read on FR, I believe, that when Michael Jordan was asked by the Democrats to help with the campaign a while back,he said no. They were suprised and asked why.
He said,"Repbulicans buy shoes too" . Smart Man
To: van_erwin
Erik Lacitis: PLEASE SHUT UP.
[Someone had to say it.]
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