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To: sinkspur
Good call.

What the traitorous scumbags screaming about this don't want to admit is that the FISA court was created by a TRULY bipartisan group of lawmakers that sought to balance the questions of individual civil liberties on the one hand and the need to keep from tipping off surveillance suspects on the other hand.
2 posted on 03/24/2003 3:57:42 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Ah...but will we be cheering this when Hillary! is the one in control of
surveillance? Something to consider, anyhow...
3 posted on 03/24/2003 3:59:58 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: Poohbah; sinkspur
"What the traitorous scumbags screaming about this don't want to admit is that the FISA court was created by a TRULY bipartisan group of lawmakers that sought to balance the questions of individual civil liberties on the one hand and the need to keep from tipping off surveillance suspects on the other hand."
2 -poo-


What the overwrought scumbags screaming ~for~ this don't want to admit is that the FISA court was created by a TRULY irrational bipartisan group of lawmakers that sought to balance the questions of individual civil liberties on the one hand and the need to keep from tipping off surveillance suspects on the other hand, -- and failed.

--- They have the insane idea that constitutional liberties can be defended by allowing a 'small amount' of infringement.
For close to 100 years now, one bit of infringement has built on another, and our free republic is dying the death of a thousand cuts.
- When the wrong political demagogue finds the right crisis to use as an excuse to ~really~ exercise these powers, we can kiss our freedom goodby.

Bet on it.

13 posted on 03/24/2003 4:45:02 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Poohbah
Poohbah and I don't often agree, but "thousands" of warrants since 1978 is a drop in the bucket. This number says the use of these secret warrants has been correctly limited to targets that really do affect national security.

If we could only get no-knock raids and property seizures down to these levels, then we would roll back the militarization of policing.
27 posted on 03/24/2003 6:49:14 PM PST by eno_
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