US Wins appeal on Domestic Spy Powers

Associated Press | 3/24/2003 | Annie Gearan

[jd777]

They're here. And I don't give a damn what has to happen to get 'em outta here.

How about closing the border?

[tpaine]

What, me worry?

Get a life sink. Go find some girls you can goad into getting banned.

[sinkspur]

If this is expanded to allow information not involving terrorism gained from secret wiretaps/email survelliance to be passed onto other law enforcement agencies, what will your position be?

It already is. Child pornographers and pedophiles are regularly nailed this way.

That's a good thing.

Take 'em one at a time.

If there were some way to keep drunks from driving, I'd be for anything that would accomplish that. Anything.

[sinkspur]

Get a life sink. Go find some girls you can goad into getting banned.

That's your response?

Your synapses are besotted, paine.

[tpaine]

BTW, -- take your silly personal asides to the backroom.
TO -sinkspur- By -tpaine-

Deep into the sauce again, aren't you?

Nope, -- as usual you're projecting your faults on opponents. Its a silly, obvious ploy.

The really joyous thing about the fact that you're so old and I'm not is the fact that you'll predecease me by many, many years,

Hummm.. Tell me, -- being a newbie, 'cp', how do you know my personal details? Could it be you're a phonie newbie?

and that unlike you, I'll continue on in life, surrounded by folks who really like me.

Yep, in your previous 'persona', you were also quite insistant on how well 'liked' you were. - A pitiful self delusion.

You, unfortunately, will be viewed as an oddity and a crank, mourned by no one, and your passing will be noted with relief by those whose lives you soiled with your nastiness.

Good grief whatta hate on you've got there, my boy! Keep that up, and you'll burst a blood vessel and end up as a drooling clown. Calm yourself.

And no, I'm not taking it to the backroom, you senile old fool.

Suit yourself. Obviously, flush from your recent triumph over a girl, you think yourself above forum rules. - Dream on.

[eno_]

Poohbah and I don't often agree, but "thousands" of warrants since 1978 is a drop in the bucket. This number says the use of these secret warrants has been correctly limited to targets that really do affect national security.

If we could only get no-knock raids and property seizures down to these levels, then we would roll back the militarization of policing.

[truth_seeker]

"The President and Congress are simply not capable of preventing terrorist attacks from occurring by legislation or by curtailing our rights. The solution is prevention of the cause of terrorism, our failed intervention into the Israel-Palestinian fight."

Do you seek the "right" to be a terrorist?

The US has gone farther than ANY entity, to find a basis for peace between the two subject factions. So while the "intervention" may have "failed" it was honestly attempted.

Is the palestine issue, the cause for muslim-terrorists to murder Christian missionaries, in the Philippines? Same question, for terror by radical muslim factions, in the former USSR? Islamist terror is a problem, of grave proportions, not tied directly to Israel.

I'll gladly submit to some reduction of my freedom, to provide my government the tools to fight this threat.

The US Constitution is not intended to be a "suicide pact."

[Lysander]

The US Constitution is not intended to be a "suicide pact."

Nor is it intended to be a tool of domination. It is there to limit power of government. It is failing by popular demand. Thanks for being scared enough to put the chains on all of us.

Funny how we have asked millions to die for our Freedom but so many of you are afraid to even have a modicum of risk to your TV lives to defend rights. Fear is an awesome motivator.

[Doctor Stochastic]

It seem the "Constitution is a Living Document" conservatives are back in force.

[jmc813]

If there were some way to keep drunks from driving, I'd be for anything that would accomplish that. Anything.

Just like the gun-grabbers would be for anything to keep children from getting killed by guns. Anything.

[truth_seeker]

"Thanks for being scared enough to put the chains on all of us.

Funny how we have asked millions to die for our Freedom but so many of you are afraid to even have a modicum of risk to your TV lives to defend rights. Fear is an awesome motivator."

I am not scared, and you don't have any new chains. I don't lead a TV life, and have served my country in uniform, to earn the right to opine as to when it is time to be on the defensive, against a known enemy.

You are pretty quick to throw around words, as if you have some special ability to be certain that our founders would be acting differently than recent Presidents.

[Lysander]

I guess the oath you made to "defend the Constitution of the United States against all
enemies, foreign and domestic" had a few more caveats than the one the rest of us took. Were you in the French Navy?

[Lysander]

It seem the "Constitution is a Living Document" conservatives are back in force.

It his lived so much they killed it.