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The Second Front
NewsMax.com ^ | March 24, 2003 | David Horowitz

Posted on 03/24/2003 3:48:47 PM PST by conservativecorner

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To: Travis McGee
The protestors are now "diversionary troops" for Al Queda.

Do I need a hunting license? Are there quotas or bag limits?

21 posted on 03/24/2003 5:22:37 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: reformedliberal
"They are very angry and focused. Usually, the leaders are not dopers."

Thanks for confirming the reality of the "anti-war" left.

Those in the streets might be the long-haired, dope-smoking maggot-infested "useful idiots". Or they might be the terminally naive. But those who manipulate them are anything but.

22 posted on 03/24/2003 5:27:06 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: conservativecorner
bttt
23 posted on 03/24/2003 5:27:45 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Burkeman1
Why do you suppose they wanted to learn how to sink a boat?Why are these people interested in our food supply?

Over the Christmas break, I had to hep my son with his 6th grade history project on the Rights and Responsibilities of a Nazi. His big question was how did their society get to that point? that people could be abused on the street for their race and ideas.

Some of the thing I see going on out in the "tolerant" left coast and on college campi are pretty frightening. Its "okay' to blow up the SUV?, it's ok to plant spikes in a tree to harm a logger? Did you notice this line?
Among its other claims to fame, Earth First! actually published the newsletter articles (in the Earth First! Journal) from which "Unabomber" Ted Kaczinsky chose his last two victims. Look at the security DH needs because of DEATH THREATS because he dares to expose and denounce them.

One of the reasons I like Free Republic is that Freepers aren't passive or uninformed.

24 posted on 03/24/2003 5:29:59 PM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: skinkinthegrass
"...Unibomber,ELF,ALF,EWF,Greenpeace,Earth First and of course, PETA...All liberal..."

I would say not all "liberal" but all LEFTIST and/or Nazi types. It is too nice to call Leftists "liberal". There are "liberals" in this world, and I would define them politically as the so called "moderates" of either of our two major political parties here in the U.S. "Liberal" and/or "Moderate" means, "we who can't make a meaningful decision" - "we sit on the fence and can't move, but sometimes we vote with the left and sometimes we vote with the conservatives, but either way, only with much compromising, because it is only with much compromising that we can make our non-decisions."

Liberals/Moderates may actually be the worst kind of public office holder, because their vascilations usually lean them to the wrong side in their non-decision making process. They often present themselves to the electorate in an untruthful way because of their chameleon-like characteristics.

In our political scheme of things, "Democrat" or "Republican" often does not define between "Left" and "Right" - both parties have conservative members, and both parties have those that are on the left. Moderates may be associated with either party, but Moderates in the Republican party are more dangerous, because this is where the "RINO" generally comes from politically. For some reason it is politically expedient for them to wear a Republican tag, while they are more likely to oppose that which is generally conservative.

I know I have just expounded on an area in the political arena usually avoided by the "experts" so all you "experts" out there on this subject matter, flame away - I am wearing protective gear.
25 posted on 03/24/2003 6:45:36 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Burkeman1
Before you dismiss the Left radicals as a bunch of zoned out loonies, keep in mind that they managed to get hundreds of thousand of their sympathizers out on the streets of our cities. These were not flower people blowing pot fumes and passing out daisies. They were committed radicals who inhabit the fever swamps of the far left.

The great monsters of the 20th century were once a small cadre, a handful of committed devils who had visions of power. And they took power largely through street demonstrations. That is really how the Third Reich was founded. Ditto for the Soviet Union.

And, as reformedliberal testifies, they have access to financial resources. One doesn’t stage a rally for 200,000 people with free e-mails and word-of-mouth. There are substantial foundations, individuals and even governments providing financing to this movement.
26 posted on 03/24/2003 7:06:37 PM PST by moneyrunner
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To: Burkeman1; 8mmMauser; reformedliberal
These current street fighters are the ones who will be providing the safe houses and documents and transportation and cache support.

We have seen this too many times in the 20th century to dismiss them.

I hope our FLEAs are taking lots of pictures and building the matrices now, for use later.

27 posted on 03/24/2003 7:10:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Burkeman1
I don't think smashing up some store fronts and tipping over a few cars is a major threat.

A major threat? Maybe not, but it is major-league vandalism. These idiots must be punished to the full extent the law allows.

They have no right to smash those storefronts anymore than they would to smash your home.

28 posted on 03/24/2003 7:10:31 PM PST by LibKill (The UN is of less use than dog doo in the gutter.)
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To: wardaddy
Ultra high velocity HPs don't leave enough for ballistics.
29 posted on 03/24/2003 7:11:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea; Dutchgirl; moneyrunner
Anyone who dismisses these street thugs does not know history.

The current German foreign minister is a crypto Stalinist who was a support cell member for the BM Gang and the RAF. Members of Fatah stayed in his apartment before and after they attacked the Vienna OPEC meeting, killing many.

Our current crop of street thugs are the same as him.

30 posted on 03/24/2003 7:15:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Yes- there is a danger they could grow more radical as we saw in the 60's when radical Left Wing but for the most part peaceful organizations were taken over by hard core violent revolutionaries. But don't expect the FBI to be monitoring those groups now. They got their hands slapped in the 70's and all but stopped monitoring hard left radical groups (excpet they contiued to look for fugitives). The FBI is too consumed with infiltrating the "militia" groups- to the extent that some have said there are more FBI agents and informants in the militias than real members.
32 posted on 03/24/2003 7:29:58 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Burkeman1
Yeah- but even those groups are more of an annoyannce than anything else. I just don't think these tattoed dope smoking slackers are a threat to anyone but themselves (as the idiot who fell from the bridge demonstrated.)


Are you blind? David H. is giving us a huge wake-up call, because he knows, he was with-in the groups like these. I take him seriously.
33 posted on 03/24/2003 7:35:26 PM PST by Ethyl
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To: Ethyl
I am not blind. I just think these groups haven't reached the stage of threat that we had when the Weathermen, black panthers, and the SLA were blowing things up, assassinating politicians and killing cops. But even then they were a pathetic group of sickos who never presented a serious challenge to the security of the nation (and Horowitz himself said this in his book "Destructive Generation".) Can these groups become more dangerous? Yes. Should they be nipped in the bud now? Yes. But I think Horowitz has allowed the emotion of the times and his own past inflate these clowns to a level of alarm they don't deserve.
34 posted on 03/24/2003 7:41:30 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: way2go
I actually have bumped into a few of these clowns. I never let them know I am a conservative but engage them in a Q&A. I have found that these guys have cult like beliefs in a couple of Left Wing authors and nothing else. They are what I call half educated. They read Noam Chomsky and a few others and absolutley nothing else. I ask them if they have read a conservative author like Burke or Adma Smith. Never even heard of them. They are not "Free thinkers" at all- but cultists. I have never met more narrow minded and less well read people. Another big clue in- few have any religious belief and were exposed to none as children and almost all are from divorced families.
35 posted on 03/24/2003 7:48:23 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Travis McGee
Wow...I knew he was dirty but not that dirty.

The Germans have sort of lost their mind in their collective pursuit to erase their past.
36 posted on 03/24/2003 8:31:11 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Travis McGee
Ughh- I am all too aware of the past of the German foreign minister. Almost unbelievable - but then again I believe the French were double dealing us all throughout the Cold War to the Soviets.
37 posted on 03/24/2003 8:44:16 PM PST by Burkeman1
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To: conservativecorner
This article touches but not explore the basic problem that the United States of America is a divided nation. On one side, we have those who desire the strong, healthy nation based on the principles given to us by our Founding Fathers and generally upheld by our government for many years. The best expression of this side was the Republican victory in the 1994 Congressional elections. On the other side, we have those who want to make us into a kind of fascist/communist country like what the early communists wanted the Soviet Union to be. The clearest expression of this side is Bill Clinton. Between these two sides is an apathetic public that doesn't see this struggle. They will swing from one side to another based on half-truths presented by the media.

I don't how to do it, but if we want the USA to remain the great country that we've come to know and love, we must crush the side represented by Bill Clinton and the protestors. Those who are not so corrupted that they can't be changed must be shown that what they support is evil, and they must reject it. The others must be made so unwelcome that they leave this country.

WFTR
Bill

38 posted on 03/24/2003 10:19:22 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Burkeman1
I have found that these guys have cult like beliefs in a couple of Left Wing authors and nothing else. They are what I call half educated. They read Noam Chomsky and a few others and absolutley nothing else. I ask them if they have read a conservative author like Burke or Adma Smith. Never even heard of them. They are not "Free thinkers" at all- but cultists. I have never met more narrow minded and less well read people.

You have described them exactly. I know some of them VERY well - family members who have been to federal prison for sabatogue. They 've had one idea in their life and they've been milking it for 40 years.

What makes these people dangerous now is their affinity for Islamic extremists.

39 posted on 03/25/2003 12:04:46 AM PST by happygrl
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