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States poised to make it easier to carry guns
Chicago Tribune ^ | Mar. 24, 2003 | TIM JONES

Posted on 03/24/2003 12:16:09 PM PST by jdege

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"There really aren't any significant issues that have come to light in terms of road rage or people pulling out their guns in a dispute," said 1st Lt. Kari Kusmierz of the state police. "But we can't draw any conclusions about the law's impact."

Right.

1 posted on 03/24/2003 12:16:09 PM PST by jdege
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
2 posted on 03/24/2003 12:16:27 PM PST by jdege
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I say carry whenever you can. I have been armed lately due to the violent peace demos I have had to drive near. Those folks are scary!
3 posted on 03/24/2003 12:18:44 PM PST by Feiny
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I believe gun control is being able to hold it steady and hit the intended target.
4 posted on 03/24/2003 12:21:08 PM PST by USMC 4-ever
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In the meantime, dire visions of Dodge City-caliber mayhem that were forecast two years ago by critics of Michigan's new concealed-carry law have not materialized, according to Michigan State Police.

Or any other state that passes shall-issue laws.

5 posted on 03/24/2003 12:23:36 PM PST by MileHi
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To: jdege; Travis McGee
Disputed research over right-to-carry laws is at the heart of the battle. A book by former University of Chicago professor John Lott claiming that liberalized gun ownership laws have helped reduce crime was challenged recently by Stanford University law professor John Donohue, who argued that such laws may increase crime.

Fact vs fiction.

6 posted on 03/24/2003 12:24:59 PM PST by hollywood (THIS JUST IN! It turns out that I'm pro-choice. I choose revolvers.)
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In most states, only one or two per cent of the population get permits, and I doubt that is enough to deter a lot of crime. If that number were up to 10%, though, the odds would be that most busses, most stores, etc. would have at least one gun in them. That would make things much scarier for a criminal.
7 posted on 03/24/2003 12:29:13 PM PST by Boston Capitalist
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To: USMC 4-ever
what do you mean?
8 posted on 03/24/2003 12:31:09 PM PST by Walnut
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To: feinswinesuksass
It's Time to Re-claim our Right to Bear Arms.

In Ohio, please refer to http://www.ohioccw.org/ for the most up-to date information on Progress in Ohio.

The current Laws in Ohio have been found to be Unconstitutional by one Appeals Court and the Case is heading to the Ohio Supreme Court with hearings scheduled to start on 15-APR-2003. The second Case, in another district, has also ruled that the existing Laws are Unconstitutional. (And this is based on the OHIO CONSTITUTION.) This second case, which will cover 17 Counties in Northwest Ohio, will be going to appeal shortly.

The Governor BOB TAFT Lied when he said he was in favor of CCW when he original was elected. But then, he Lied about TAXES when he got elected in the Past election.

Peace! ([: ^ )

Thru applied Strength!

RamS

9 posted on 03/24/2003 12:35:05 PM PST by RamingtonStall (Ride Hard and far! ..... and with GPS, Know where you are!)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I have had a permit to carry since 1968, in Mass of all places, never felt the need to do so FReepin'. The commies are Nancy Boys, even the Black Block, they fight like girls or so I remember, a few unfortunate experiences from my youth.

Nothing like gtowing up in an old industral city.

10 posted on 03/24/2003 12:35:25 PM PST by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!)
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To: hollywood
Why is the left so scared of private gun ownership? Really, why not make the eddie eagle program MANDATORY for public school children. They can force condom safety but not gun safety?
11 posted on 03/24/2003 12:37:22 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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Why is the left so scared of private gun ownership?

Because it represents something they CAN'T control.

12 posted on 03/24/2003 12:41:19 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Boston Capitalist
Actually, in every case where right to carry has occurred, crime rates have decreased. ALL cases, 100%, no exceptions.

Gun control alpha hotels don't want this to become general knowledge because it shows them to be the chicken little panic mongers that they are, not to mention full of manure!

13 posted on 03/24/2003 12:41:50 PM PST by mil-vet
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To: Little Bill
I never carry while Freeping. It is just when I am driving around. With all the crime, car jackings, peace demos, and gangsters.....a girl needs to protect herself!
14 posted on 03/24/2003 12:42:27 PM PST by Feiny
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To: mil-vet
Can you give me a reference for this? I have heard it said, but I have also head a lot of people who are gun friendly say that that some times crime goes down a bit and some times it stays flat.
15 posted on 03/24/2003 12:46:30 PM PST by Boston Capitalist
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To: Boston Capitalist
In most states, only one or two per cent of the population get permits, and I doubt that is enough to deter a lot of crime.

The criminals may not know which 2% are carrying, though.

16 posted on 03/24/2003 12:50:00 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Boston Capitalist
Agreed. With all due respect to the men and women in blue, they are at the scene after the fact most of the time. That alone is hardly a deterrent to a criminal mind because the criminal will calculate get-away time.

Maybe we should consider mandatory military service for 1 or 2 years after high school no?
17 posted on 03/24/2003 12:55:32 PM PST by SQUID
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To: jdege
bump
18 posted on 03/24/2003 12:56:40 PM PST by VOA
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Nebraska is debating the right to carry, LB 265 this week.If not for one MAJOR senator whose name shall be unmentioned, we could possible pass it....

But don't hold your breath.....

19 posted on 03/24/2003 12:58:43 PM PST by China Clipper
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To: Walnut
What I mean is that gun-control (emphasis on control) should be being able to shoot acurately, and instead of trying to figure out if people should carry guns, we should be teaching the people how to use them.
20 posted on 03/24/2003 1:03:07 PM PST by USMC 4-ever (In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have over come the world.-John 16:33)
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