[EvilOverlord]

We let up and gave the UN another try in 1991. That's why we have to fight again now.

We let up and gave the UN a try in 1953 in Korea. That's why we're likely to have to fight again.

The only way to end a war is to achieve VICTORY. Otherwise, you just have to fight it again later.

[kabar]

Well-stated. There is no substitute for victory. I fear "Shock and Awe" and an antiseptic war where we care more about the welfare of the enemy's civilans than the enemy will cost us more dead and wounded. Funny, but we didn't win WWII with those concerns. Mass warfare is about breaking the will of the enemy. It is impossible to separate the civilian population from military capabilities. It is more humane to make the war as short and violent as possible.