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To: Friend of thunder
Anger builds over periods of time and sometimes expresses itself as stupidity.

While Travis is undoubtedly wrong in his initail diatribes, he is right as regards the point at hand. This unit was ill equipped to engage the enemy.

The Army needs to rethink along the lines of the Marine Corps so that every soldier who enters the theatre is first and foremost a combat infantrymen. Their seconfdary MOS would be the job they choose when they enlist.

Having said that, I thank and admire them for putting it all on the line. And may God help the survivors survive.

By the way, I served in 13th COSCOM which supports the 2AD and the 1st Cav and my old unit is there now. God bless'em.

85 posted on 03/23/2003 11:17:40 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
I wish I had written something like your last post, and then shut the **** heck up.

I am staying on this thread, instead of signing off, despite my shame and personal humiliation at my incredibly stupid remarks, specifically to apologize to all of those I have hurt.

89 posted on 03/23/2003 11:21:59 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: jwalsh07
If these troops were taken in the rear, then it's clear (becoming more so all of the time) that what we are being told is not jiving with reality - that we have not secured these areas, or else the POWs we are releasing are coming back and hitting us.

What needs to be done is to stop releasing the POWs, and give up the "haul ass and bypass" doctrine they have. They are waiting on the 4th Armored from what it sounds like, to assault Baghdad. They should hold in place and send units to sweep back through areas behind them.

Umm Qasar proved this. If you watched it last night, you could see it clearly wasn't "secure".

97 posted on 03/23/2003 11:29:13 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: jwalsh07
By the way, I served in 13th COSCOM which supports the 2AD and the 1st Cav and my old unit is there now. God bless'em.

Thank you for your service.

Certainly, the military needs to make sure that troops put into harms way have the required resources to handle whatever situation arises. (This is probably not the time to discus this in detail.)

My concern was that Travis seemed to be deeming the troops themselves – something he has apologized for (repeatedly), which I admire him for.

103 posted on 03/23/2003 11:38:16 AM PST by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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