Many US casualties in Nassiriya battle; Footage of POWs, including woman, shown on Iraqi TV

Al Bawaba ^ | 23-03-2003, 16:47

[Neets]

I am not informed enough on the Geneva convention to make comments on it, so will you explain it to me before I make a decision on whether she is being anti-American?

Oh puleeease...just how stupid do you think we all are?

[sinkspur]

You know me well enough to understand that I take the views of the Pope seriously.

The Pope is trying to prevent a Christian vs. Muslim crusade. That's why he's saying what he's saying.

Calling the war a "crime against humanity" was a bit over the top, though.

George W. Bush is doing the right thing here, and I suspect the Pope won't lose any sleep over this war.

I miss sitetest's posts, but getting in a snit over the banning of someone who went off on the President the way Catholic Guy did is misplaced.

[JMJ333]

I have the thread. I read it. He got a little out of hand. But nothing that I haven't seen my old rival harbour do a hundred times over. ;)

[JMJ333]

I don't know? How stupid are you? While you're at it, you may as well hit your itchy trigger finger on the abuse button for me too and have me banned for questioning your vitriol.

[sinkspur]

He got a little out of hand.

Comparing Bush to Hitler is more than a "little out of hand."

I suspect CatholicGuy's a Buchananite, though I've never confronted him on it.

[Neets]

Get real....go read up on the GC and see if you agree with her on how our guys and gals who are being held as POW's should be treated...

FWIW, she knew it was inevitable she'd be banned eventually...she did it to herself...I just helped speed the process a little...

But don't believe me....after all I am the only one here educating you about Askel.

[JMJ333]

Certainly Bush is not Hitler in terms of the war. In regard to eugenics and genetic engineering, I'd say America is on par with nazi Germany. Not saying the war has anything to do with that though. I sent you a freepmail, and I see you answered part of it with your last post. Thanks.

[sinkspur]

The Geneva Convention specifically bans the parading of POWs in front of cameras, or filming their interrogation.

It also bans the execution of POWs (as if that needed to be encoded anywhere).

Askel said that the United States shouldn't expect to be covered by the Geneva Convention when it went against the major signatories of that convention (that's the UN) in going ahead with this war.

That's reprehensible, IMO. The UN exhibited cowardice, and will be embarrassed after this war ends.

Askel also said, during our incursion into Afghanistan, that the Taliban were unfairly demonized; they were, after all, against abortion, drugs, and pornography.

Askel's a very angry young woman, and she's taking it out on the country.

[Kevin Curry]

That's reprehensible . . .

Not only reprehensible, but wrong. The laws of war apply to all armed conflicts--whether they are blessed by the ignoble, feckless UN and its cheese-eating surrender monkeys or not.

Askel5's brain is free-wheeling in empty space. LP is a good place for her.

[sinkspur]

In regard to eugenics and genetic engineering, I'd say America is on par with nazi Germany.

Where is the US engaged in "eugenics"? Or genetic engineering, for that matter? The Congress, and Bush, are trying to ban cloning and any stem cell research on embryos beyond those already in labs.

I don't agree with you. At all.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I can't be sure of that, but I would tend to think so. She was a BIG Keyes supporter, and the two often seem to go hand in hand.

[JMJ333]

Askel said that the United States shouldn't expect to be covered by the Geneva Convention when it went against the major signatories of that convention (that's the UN) in going ahead with this war.

If that is indeed what she said then I would disagree with that statement.

Askel also said, during our incursion into Afghanistan, that the Taliban were unfairly demonized; they were, after all, against abortion, drugs, and pornography.

This is, in a nutchell, her baby. Nothing is more evil to her than the current culture. The taliban are evil SOBs, no doubt about it. Her point was, though, that they haven't they killed 45 million of their own in the womb, or harvested out untold amounts of humans like crops of corn for they cells. Which is the greater evil? What they did to their women or what we do to ours? We are a peaceful people, never harming our neighbors. We only harm our own. Her argument has merit on that level.

But why banning? Why not just knock her down in the arena of ideas if her ideas are so wrong. I always considered her a great contributor to our catholic caucus and will miss her and will pray for her.

Anyway, thanks for the explanation sink. I'm getting offline and going on a walk. Probably won't be back until Eastertime. Have a fruitful lent.

[JMJ333]

Where is the US engaged in "eugenics"? Or genetic engineering, for that matter? The Congress, and Bush, are trying to ban cloning and any stem cell research on embryos beyond those already in labs.

So much for me walk. :)

Put in a search at google for genetic engineering+latest research. Check out the University of Wisconsin. Check out the NIH. Check out the human-pig chimeras. Materialist athiest science is running the show in this country...running the culture of atomism. Peter Singer, Richard Dawkins and Stephern Hawking aren't exaclty backing away from their views these days. <

[sinkspur]

Materialist athiest science is running the show in this country...

What does this mean? I just want to make sure you're not turning into a Bircher.

[JMJ333]

LOL! And share company with the likes of Todd Brendan Fahey?? Not a chance! Its just an observation after reading a lot from the people at the discovery institute and people who combat those who have this fixation with playing God and manipulating nature. I didn't mean it conspiratorially. I just meant that we are no longer a Christian nation in terms of worldviews, we are now materialists and their beliefs drive culture.

[Ciexyz]

Sayonara Askel5. Thanks moderators for banning that account.

[Nita Nuprez]

What was the topic of this thread again? I lost track after reply 31. :-)

[Romulus]

In time you may learn prudence and circumspection -- virtues of middle age, so different from the reckless, passionate valor that's the virtue of youth.

I doubt it, though -- to you, both a blessing and a curse; for us, a bitter misfortune to have lost you. I salute you.

AVE ATQUE VALE.

[ventana]

But nothing that I haven't seen my old rival harbour do a hundred times over. ;)

That's what makes this place so interesting. Let's hope in the coming week cooler admin heads prevail and perhaps Askel5 is permitted back. Her zeal should be checked, but eliminated? She made interesting and useful contributions as passionate people do, we can forgive a lack of circumspection, no? V's wife.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

No, we can't - not on something like this. Her deranged blatherings had gotten even goofier than before, and this last one was over the top.

Passion is one thing, deep psychosis is another.