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'You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious'
The Guardian ^ | Saturday March 22, 2003 | James Meek in Safwan

Posted on 03/22/2003 2:26:28 PM PST by Cricket24

Yesterday afternoon a truck drove down a side road in the Iraqi town of Safwan, laden with rugs and furniture. Booty or precious possessions? In a day of death, joy and looting, it was hard to know. As the passengers spotted European faces, one boy grinned and put his thumb up. The other nervously waved a white flag. The mixed messages defined the moment: Thank you. We love you. Please don't kill us.

US marines took Safwan at about 8am yesterday. There was no rose-petal welcome, no cheering crowd, no stars and stripes.

Afraid that the US and Britain will abandon them, the people of Safwan did not touch the portraits and murals of Saddam Hussein hanging everywhere. It was left to the marines to tear them down. It did not mean there was not heartfelt gladness at the marines' arrival. Ajami Saadoun Khlis, whose son and brother were executed under the Saddam regime, sobbed like a child on the shoulder of the Guardian's Egyptian translator. He mopped the tears but they kept coming.

"You just arrived," he said. "You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious. I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand. We came out of the grave."

"For a long time we've been saying: 'Let them come'," his wife, Zahara, said. "Last night we were afraid, but we said: 'Never mind, as long as they get rid of him, as long as they overthrow him, no problem'." Their 29-year-old son was executed in July 2001, accused of harbouring warm feelings for Iran.

"He was a farmer, he had a car, he sold tomatoes, and we had a life that we were satis fied with," said Khlis. "He was in prison for a whole year, and I raised 75m dinars in bribes. It didn't work. The money was gone, and he was gone. They sent me a telegram. They gave me the body."

The marines rolled into the border town after a bombardment which left up to a dozen people dead. Residents gave different figures. A farmer, Haider, who knew one of the men killed, Sharif Badoun, said: "Killing some is worth it, to end the injustice and suffering." The men around him gave a collective hysterical laugh.

The injustice of tyranny was merged in their minds with the effects of sanctions. "Look at the way we're dressed!" said Haider, and scores of men held up their stained, holed clothes. "We are isolated from the rest of the world."

The marines took Safwan without loss, although a tank hit a mine. "They had to clear that route through. They found the way to punch through and about 10 Iraqi soldiers surrendered immediately," said Marine Sergeant Jason Lewis, from Denver, standing at a checkpoint at the entrance to the town where, minutes earlier, a comrade had folded a huge portrait of President Saddam and tucked it into his souvenir box.

The welcome, he admitted, had been cool. "At first they were a little hesitant," he said. "As you know, Saddam's a dictator, so we've got to reassure them we're here to stay _ We tore down the Saddam signs to show them we mean business.

"Hopefully this time we'll do it right, and give these Iraqis a chance of liberty."

But the marines' presence was light. They had not brought food, medicines, or even order. All day hundreds of armoured vehicles poured through the town. But they did not stop, and the looting continued. Every government establishment seemed to be fair game. People covered their faces in shame as they carried books out of a school. Tawfik Mohammed, the headmaster, initially denied his school had been looted, then admitted it. "This is the result of your entering," he said. "Whenever any army enters an area it becomes chaos. We are cautious about the future. We are very afraid."

Safwan yesterday was a place where people were constantly taking you aside to warn in veiled terms that it was necessary to be careful. Everywhere was the lingering fear that the revenge killings that swept the area in 1991 - a product of US encourage ment and then abandonment of the southern Iraqi revolt - could happen again.

"Now, we are afraid [Saddam's] government will come back," said Haider, as the Safwan Farmers' Cooperative was being looted behind him. "We don't trust the Americans any more. People made a revolution, and they didn't help us."

Safwan is a crumbling, dead-end place, full of poor, restless young men, and reliant on the tomato trade for its income. Farmers were panicking yesterday as they asked journalists, in lieu of anyone better, how they were supposed to sell their tomatoes.

A handful of soldiers, mainly US marines but with a few British, are struggling to cope with the chaos and the lack of health care or aid.

At a checkpoint just north of the town two British military policemen with paramedical training and a US doctor rushed to treat two Iraqi men brought in on the back of a beaten-up pick-up truck. Their legs were lacerated by shrapnel. The military policemen did their conscientious best, and may have saved their lives.


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1 posted on 03/22/2003 2:26:28 PM PST by Cricket24
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To: Cricket24
"You just arrived," he said. "You're late. What took you so long?"

Talk to the UN.

2 posted on 03/22/2003 2:28:04 PM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely
Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us.
3 posted on 03/22/2003 2:32:56 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Brian Mosely
Talk to the UN.

Talk to Chirac! Then maybe you can get the real reason for the delay.

4 posted on 03/22/2003 2:34:30 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Cricket24
. "You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious. I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand. We came out of the grave."

Bump for the goood guys.
A little further, and Iraqi's will be celebrating like they've never had the chance to celebrate before.

5 posted on 03/22/2003 2:34:50 PM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: Cricket24
Earlier today I sent this public opinion comment to a local paper:

What Took You So Long?

As our troops moved towards the towns in Iraq, crowds of citizens who lived under a cruel regime swarmed our vehicles, thanking our troops for saving them from torture and death from Saddam. Many screamed, "What took you so long"?

Let's see, what did take us so long? The UN, France, liberal Democrat Senators, Code Pink, L.A. City council, Michael Moore and all of the other Hollywood wierdos just to name a few...the list goes on.

6 posted on 03/22/2003 2:35:11 PM PST by Mark (Treason doeth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: Cricket24
The Guardian? ... Justin Raimondo on vacation? ... hehe ...

Hoping that all Iraqi people cheer being liberated from Saddam Hussein and his sons ...
7 posted on 03/22/2003 2:36:21 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: mewzilla
Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us.

WE? I trust that YOU are a firm advocate of the U.N. for it was U.N. doctrine that prevented GHWB to make sure that it didn't happen in '91.

8 posted on 03/22/2003 2:39:09 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS
We're not being ordered around by the UN now are we? We hung those folks out to dry. We're making up for it now, but we never should have allowed it to happen in the first place.
9 posted on 03/22/2003 2:40:58 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us.

Nations make bad mistakes as easily as individauls.

Yes, we scrooded the pooch back in '91. Yes, they have right to doubt us.

Once we clean out the Baathists, once we clean out the terror government they are under, then they will have no doubts.

Then we will leave, and hope they do well.

10 posted on 03/22/2003 2:42:01 PM PST by LibKill (The UN is of less use than dog doo in the gutter.)
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To: EGPWS
WE? I trust that YOU are a firm advocate of the U.N. for it was U.N. doctrine that prevented GHWB to make sure that it didn't happen in '91.

Yep. All the U.N. allowed him to do was liberate Kewait. Iraq was off limits to Bush #1.
Iraqi's were ready to over throw Saddam during the Clinton reign of terror, too, but Clinton gave our CIA hell for even offering to help them.(History channel documentary)

11 posted on 03/22/2003 2:42:35 PM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: LibKill
Nations make bad mistakes as easily as individauls.

Yeah, but when nations do it...

I hope the Iraqi people do well, too.

12 posted on 03/22/2003 2:44:11 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
"Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us. "

Were not alone in that though are we? Wasn't it their Arab brothers in the coalition that didn't want us to take Saddam out?

I think we wanted to and they said no. So it's the Arab countries that really screwed them in 1991. Although we should have had the balls to take him out then. We knew what he was.

13 posted on 03/22/2003 2:44:29 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: DannyTN
Were not alone in that though are we?

No offense but that excuse only works for toddlers.

14 posted on 03/22/2003 2:46:20 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: EGPWS
Was it the UN or the Arabs in the coalition that prevented 41 from taking out Saddam?
15 posted on 03/22/2003 2:49:08 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Cricket24
Tawfik Mohammed, the headmaster, initially denied his school had been looted, then admitted it. "This is the result of your entering," he said. "Whenever any army enters an area it becomes chaos. We are cautious about the future. We are very afraid."

From another article that mentioned this guy, it gave the distinct impression that this guy a Baathist functionary. Other people were afraid to speak out against Saddam in his presence.

The media will likely be quite sloppy in letting baathists spount Saddamite propoganda as 'the voice of the people'. I'll take the Iraqis who lost sons to Saddam's torture chambers over these baathist Govt thugs.

16 posted on 03/22/2003 2:49:22 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! Lets Roll! now!)
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To: Cricket24
"Safwan is a crumbling, dead-end place, full of poor, restless young men..."

Kinda like Brockton.

17 posted on 03/22/2003 2:53:21 PM PST by billorites
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To: mewzilla
"No offense but that excuse only works for toddlers. "

I agree that we are at fault. But if we wanted to go in and the Arabs or the UN stopped us, then in addtion to admitting fault, we should tell the Iraqi's that.

Let the Arabs or UN share in the blame, if they are the ones that talked us out of it.

18 posted on 03/22/2003 2:54:29 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: mewzilla
We're not being ordered around by the UN now are we?

Nope we are not and shouldn't, however at the time of the defense of Kuwait, the purpose in '91 was to reestablish the sovereignty of Kuwait and rid them of Iraqi oppression and that's all. We had a directive and performed well to the tee in accomplishing that directive. If it wasn't for the U.N. and it's now know irrelevancy Saddam would have been gone 12 years ago.

19 posted on 03/22/2003 2:55:17 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Cricket24
Afraid that the US and Britain will abandon them, the people of Safwan did not touch the portraits and murals of Saddam Hussein hanging everywhere. It was left to the marines to tear them down.

Typical guardian reporting.


Is that a Safwan resident beating saddam in the nose with his shoe?

20 posted on 03/22/2003 2:55:46 PM PST by mdittmar
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