'You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious'

The Guardian ^ | Saturday March 22, 2003 | James Meek in Safwan

[Brian Mosely]

"You just arrived," he said. "You're late. What took you so long?"

Talk to the UN.

[mewzilla]

Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us.

[EGPWS]

Talk to the UN.

Talk to Chirac! Then maybe you can get the real reason for the delay.

[concerned about politics]

. "You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious. I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand. We came out of the grave."

Bump for the goood guys.
A little further, and Iraqi's will be celebrating like they've never had the chance to celebrate before.

[Mark]

Earlier today I sent this public opinion comment to a local paper:

What Took You So Long?

As our troops moved towards the towns in Iraq, crowds of citizens who lived under a cruel regime swarmed our vehicles, thanking our troops for saving them from torture and death from Saddam. Many screamed, "What took you so long"?

Let's see, what did take us so long? The UN, France, liberal Democrat Senators, Code Pink, L.A. City council, Michael Moore and all of the other Hollywood wierdos just to name a few...the list goes on.

[Bobby777]

The Guardian? ... Justin Raimondo on vacation? ... hehe ...

Hoping that all Iraqi people cheer being liberated from Saddam Hussein and his sons ...

[EGPWS]

Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us.

WE? I trust that YOU are a firm advocate of the U.N. for it was U.N. doctrine that prevented GHWB to make sure that it didn't happen in '91.

[mewzilla]

We're not being ordered around by the UN now are we? We hung those folks out to dry. We're making up for it now, but we never should have allowed it to happen in the first place.

[LibKill]

Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us.

Nations make bad mistakes as easily as individauls.

Yes, we scrooded the pooch back in '91. Yes, they have right to doubt us.

Once we clean out the Baathists, once we clean out the terror government they are under, then they will have no doubts.

Then we will leave, and hope they do well.

[concerned about politics]

WE? I trust that YOU are a firm advocate of the U.N. for it was U.N. doctrine that prevented GHWB to make sure that it didn't happen in '91.

Yep. All the U.N. allowed him to do was liberate Kewait. Iraq was off limits to Bush #1.
Iraqi's were ready to over throw Saddam during the Clinton reign of terror, too, but Clinton gave our CIA hell for even offering to help them.(History channel documentary)

[mewzilla]

Nations make bad mistakes as easily as individauls.

Yeah, but when nations do it...

I hope the Iraqi people do well, too.

[DannyTN]

"Well, we really screwed them in '91. Can't blame them for doubting us. "

Were not alone in that though are we? Wasn't it their Arab brothers in the coalition that didn't want us to take Saddam out?

I think we wanted to and they said no. So it's the Arab countries that really screwed them in 1991. Although we should have had the balls to take him out then. We knew what he was.

[mewzilla]

Were not alone in that though are we?

No offense but that excuse only works for toddlers.

[DannyTN]

Was it the UN or the Arabs in the coalition that prevented 41 from taking out Saddam?

[WOSG]

Tawfik Mohammed, the headmaster, initially denied his school had been looted, then admitted it. "This is the result of your entering," he said. "Whenever any army enters an area it becomes chaos. We are cautious about the future. We are very afraid."

From another article that mentioned this guy, it gave the distinct impression that this guy a Baathist functionary. Other people were afraid to speak out against Saddam in his presence.

The media will likely be quite sloppy in letting baathists spount Saddamite propoganda as 'the voice of the people'. I'll take the Iraqis who lost sons to Saddam's torture chambers over these baathist Govt thugs.

[billorites]

"Safwan is a crumbling, dead-end place, full of poor, restless young men..."

Kinda like Brockton.

[DannyTN]

"No offense but that excuse only works for toddlers. "

I agree that we are at fault. But if we wanted to go in and the Arabs or the UN stopped us, then in addtion to admitting fault, we should tell the Iraqi's that.

Let the Arabs or UN share in the blame, if they are the ones that talked us out of it.

[EGPWS]

We're not being ordered around by the UN now are we?

Nope we are not and shouldn't, however at the time of the defense of Kuwait, the purpose in '91 was to reestablish the sovereignty of Kuwait and rid them of Iraqi oppression and that's all. We had a directive and performed well to the tee in accomplishing that directive. If it wasn't for the U.N. and it's now know irrelevancy Saddam would have been gone 12 years ago.

[mdittmar]

Afraid that the US and Britain will abandon them, the people of Safwan did not touch the portraits and murals of Saddam Hussein hanging everywhere. It was left to the marines to tear them down.

Typical guardian reporting.

Is that a Safwan resident beating saddam in the nose with his shoe?