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War protesters not too thrilled about their night in S.F. jail
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/22/03 | Henry Lee

Posted on 03/22/2003 10:19:22 AM PST by GSWarrior

Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer Saturday, March 22, 2003

War protesters not too thrilled about their night in S.F. jail
They say police were rude, food and bedding inadequate

Anti-war protesters emerged tired, hungry and, in some cases, tearful Friday after being held overnight in a San Francisco jail.

They weren't exactly treated like royalty but said they would be willing to get arrested again.

Most of the 1,400 demonstrators arrested by police Thursday were cited and released either later in the day or Friday on misdemeanors, including blocking traffic, unlawful assembly and disturbing the peace.

Five people arrested on Thursday and one on Friday face felony charges, most of which involve battery on a police officer. They will be arraigned Tuesday.

"Our interest is to distinguish between those (who) practice civil disobedience and those intent on violence and destruction. The latter will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," said Mark MacNamara, spokesman for District Attorney Terence Hallinan.

Among those facing felony charges is Asaf Achitoov, 34, of San Francisco, who allegedly threw bottles at police on horseback at Powell and Market streets, and Mink Kim, who grabbed another protester in a bear hug near Van Ness Avenue and Fell Street in an attempt to thwart an arrest of that man, police said.

Ian Walker, 39, of San Francisco was arrested for allegedly grabbing an officer's billy club near Fourth and Market streets, prompting police to hit him with batons.

Those who were released Friday whooped it up as they reunited with their friends outside San Francisco County Jail on Seventh Street. A group of women hugged and cried. Many declined to give their real names as they ate hot cereal and drank tea provided by supporters.

"I'm free -- no charges, no papers. Bonjour, mon ami!" exclaimed one man in a bright yellow sweatshirt.

Protesters were less pleased about how they had been forced to spend the night.

"We understand that we were not on vacation, but it was unacceptable the way we were treated," said a protester who gave her name as Pancetta, 24, of Berkeley.

Some protesters said a few officers and deputies were cordial and accommodating, flashing peace signs and responding to their requests quickly. The complaints, however, were more widespread.

Some arrestees said that their hands had been bound too tightly and that police had ignored their complaints.

Brian Henderson, 19, a UC Santa Cruz student, said police had used "scare tactics" on a protester who wouldn't give her name, including threatening to withhold bathroom privileges.

"That is not right," Henderson said.

Overnight, some protesters slept fitfully on the ground in small holding cells that housed 25 each. Others slept on mats with blankets in a gymnasium.

Some women were addressed by deputies as "little girl" or "hon," one protester said.

They griped that their requests for water or food were ignored or delayed for hours. When they did get fed, they got cheese or peanut butter-and-jelly sandwiches that didn't taste great.

"They didn't give us any water at all," said a woman who wished to be identified as Venus, 23, of Berkeley. "One (deputy) looked at me and turned away, and another said, 'I just got on duty, I don't know about water.' "

Chris, 25, of Berkeley said their complaints were met by derision by deputies, who said, "This is what you get for protesting. Next time, don't protest."

Carolina Dolimite, 20, of Oakland said of the jail conditions, "Just because it's expected doesn't mean it's right."

Sheriff's spokeswoman Eileen Hirst said that those arrested had been processed and housed according to department policies and that anyone was free to file complaints.


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Some women were addressed by deputies as "little girl" or "hon," one protester said

The horror...the horror.

1 posted on 03/22/2003 10:19:22 AM PST by GSWarrior
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Some women were addressed by deputies as "little girl" or "hon," one protester said.

Oh, the horrors!

2 posted on 03/22/2003 10:20:24 AM PST by Hildy
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To: GSWarrior
you beat me by 12 seconds!
3 posted on 03/22/2003 10:20:51 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Great minds think alike.
4 posted on 03/22/2003 10:21:04 AM PST by GSWarrior
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When they did get fed, they got cheese or peanut butter-and-jelly sandwiches that didn't taste great. Awwww poor babies! What no Brie?
5 posted on 03/22/2003 10:21:10 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: GSWarrior
Yet another one I had to check to see if it was from the Onion.
6 posted on 03/22/2003 10:21:48 AM PST by denydenydeny
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To: GSWarrior
My heart aches for them.... Nope, sorry, that's just the bean dip.
7 posted on 03/22/2003 10:22:25 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (No more will we pretend that our desire/For liberty is number-cold and has no fire.)
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To: GSWarrior
It's really hard to take serious a newspaper that uses the phrase "whooped it up".
8 posted on 03/22/2003 10:22:49 AM PST by TheMightyQuinn
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Anti-war protesters emerged tired, hungry and, in some cases, tearful Friday after being held overnight in a San Francisco jail.

Awwww....this just breaks my heart. Why should we be cncerned about all those people in Kuwait and Iraq who are putting their lives on the line for our protection when we have people being treated (whiny tone) so badly right here at home? {/sarcasm}

9 posted on 03/22/2003 10:24:36 AM PST by Allegra (Buy stock in white surrender flags...get rich overnight!)
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"We understand that we were not on vacation, but it was unacceptable the way we were treated"

Since when did prisoners get a vacational treatment?
10 posted on 03/22/2003 10:25:27 AM PST by soccermatt34 (Detroit What?)
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To: GSWarrior
For years, protesters have acted like their illegal actions don't have legal consequences, just because they claim "civil disobedience" and "free speech."

There is, however, a difference between speech and actions. Their speech crossed the line a long time ago.

Similarly, they invoke the concept of "civil disobedience" as some sort of "get out of jail free" card. Do they not understand that the entire point of civil disobedience, as practiced by Thoreau and others, was to GET arrested as a demostration of their beliefs? Apparently not.

Party's over kiddies. We are at war and the adults are back in charge. Enjoy your bread and water and get used to taste if you are going to act like spoiled thugs.
11 posted on 03/22/2003 10:25:49 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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they need some of these signs in SF
12 posted on 03/22/2003 10:26:23 AM PST by MrFred
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To: GSWarrior
Kristol on FOX right now is saying that on universities the overwhelming anti-war sentiment is among the professors, not the students.

He also said that students who try to quote conservative sources in history/politics classes often are suppressed by their professors.
13 posted on 03/22/2003 10:26:44 AM PST by samtheman
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Anti-war protesters emerged tired, hungry and, in some cases, tearful Friday after being held overnight in a San Francisco jail.BWWAAAAAA! Poor babies.

Time to reopen Alcatraz.

14 posted on 03/22/2003 10:27:10 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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"Our interest is to distinguish between those (who) practice civil disobedience and those intent on violence and destruction. The latter will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," said Mark MacNamara, spokesman for District Attorney Terence Hallinan.

The whole point of civil disobedience is that you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

When even the District Attorney (through his spokesman) announces that he won't prosecute those committing civil disobedience, he is encouraging lawless behavior.

In addition, they are not looking at the crimes, but at the "cause" when they decide whether or not to prosecute. In other words, if you commit crimes like trespass and disturbing the peace, while protesting the policies of the Bush Administration, you will not be punished. But if you engage in the exact same crimes while protesting abortion, you will have the full wrath of prosecutorial powers (RICO statutes, for example) bear down on you.

15 posted on 03/22/2003 10:28:10 AM PST by dead
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What a bunch of weenies.

I'd like to run them through USMC recruit training. They would really howl in misery.

16 posted on 03/22/2003 10:28:15 AM PST by LibKill (The UN is of less use than dog doo in the gutter.)
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   Brian Henderson, 19, a UC Santa Cruz student, said police had used "scare tactics" on a protester who wouldn't give her name, including threatening to withhold bathroom privileges.

"That is not right," Henderson said.

If they didn't like that, they should try being fed into a giant plastic-shredding machine sometime, or having a relaxing acid bath.

17 posted on 03/22/2003 10:28:33 AM PST by Mike-o-Matic
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To: GSWarrior
since when does jail equal hilton paradise
18 posted on 03/22/2003 10:28:59 AM PST by rebel85
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To: GSWarrior
Let's see, they puke and poop in front of businesses, attack officers, call the president and our troops "baby killers," and stink to high heaven and THEY have the gall to complain about how they are treated?
19 posted on 03/22/2003 10:29:58 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: areafiftyone
They are lucky that they didn't get shipped to Maricopa County, AZ. Sheriff Joe would have put them in tents in the AZ desert, made them wear pink underwear, and fed them green baloney.
20 posted on 03/22/2003 10:29:59 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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