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Operation Iraqi Freedom - Day 1 - LIVE THREAD
20 March 2003 | An.American.Expatriate

Posted on 03/20/2003 2:40:23 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate

This is a thread to collect all the breaking stories regarding the Libration of Iraq


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: day1; iraq; iraqifreedom; live; war
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To: theophilusscribe
Jack Straw is so cool...
81 posted on 03/20/2003 3:49:02 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: theophilusscribe
Qatar is considered an ally—so bombing them would be out of the question.

Yeah, we might accidently kill General Franks, for example.

82 posted on 03/20/2003 3:50:04 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: All
JS: there is actually wide support for this action
83 posted on 03/20/2003 3:50:32 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: Tree of Liberty
It occurs to me that Iraqi forces are merely testing our defenses with one shot of three different kinds of weapons.
84 posted on 03/20/2003 3:50:46 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Jason Kauppinen
So a SCUD has a range greater than 90 miles?

Honestly, I don't know. Scud is a specific type of missile that has variable range capability based on the engine and payload. Remember they also have Al Samood's and other missiles.

85 posted on 03/20/2003 3:50:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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To: maquiladora
Yeah. Little details like that make a big difference!

:o)
86 posted on 03/20/2003 3:52:13 AM PST by theophilusscribe
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To: Jason Kauppinen
The Al Hussein Scud derivative has a range of 600km.
87 posted on 03/20/2003 3:52:30 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Iraq may have a small number of Scud ballistic missiles in its armoury. BBC News Online looks at the Scud missile and the history of its use.

Capabilities and range: </FONT COLOR>
All Iraqi Scud-Bs - the original, al-Hussein, al-Abbas, al-Hijarah and al-Abid - are liquid fuelled, short range ballistic missiles. They are launched from heavy mobile launchers.

By today's standards they are old fashioned and very basic.

Scuds have crude gyroscope guidance systems which operate only during the missiles powered flight - about 80 seconds for the most widely used al-Hussein model.

Once the rocket motor stops firing, the missile and warhead coast unguided towards the target area.

Iraq's Scuds are notoriously inaccurate weapons. The further they fly the less accurate they are.

Iraq's Scud missile ranges
Click here for details

The fear that Iraq may be able to arm its Scuds with chemical or biological warheads has loomed large.

UN weapons inspectors have suggested that Iraq may have attempted to do so, but Scuds have not been deployed by Iraq carrying such weapons.

Analysts have warned that Saddam Hussein could order the use of chemical and biological weapons if the US leads a war against Iraq that is going to end his rule.

There is some debate as to whether Iraq has any operating Scud missiles left.

Unscom weapons inspectors destroyed 48 Scuds during their years in Iraq, and nearly all of the known 819 Scuds imported by Baghdad have been accounted for.

But according to the UK prime minister's dossier on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction: "Iraq possesses extended-range versions of the Scud ballistic missile in breach of UN Security Council resolution 687 which are capable of reaching Cyprus, Eastern Turkey, Tehran and Israel. It is also developing longer-range ballistic missiles."

The International Institute of Strategic Studies estimates that Iraq might have about a dozen Scuds hidden away.

History: </FONT COLOR>
Staring in 1974, Iraq started receiving Scud-B launchers and missiles from the Soviet Union.

In total, Iraq is believed to have imported more than 800 single-stage liquid-engine missiles and 11 mobile launchers for them.

In the mid-1980s Iraq began a programme to extend the range of the Scud-B and to "reverse engineer" the design, so as to produce several new, more potent, indigenous missiles, known as the al-Hussein, al-Hijarah, al-Abbas and the al-Abid .

The UN disarmament commission, Unscom, found no evidence of further imports through a third party of other Scud missiles or launchers.

Use and deployment: </FONT COLOR>
During the Iran-Iraq war, especially in 1988, Scuds with improved range were used to devastating effect against Iran, even reaching Tehran. Iraq is believed to have fired about 500 scuds during their 1980-88 war with Iran.

It fired about 90 during the 1991 Gulf War. These were targeted at Israel, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and coalition forces in the region. They did little damage, but caused great panic.

Iraqi Scud-B missiles
Missile Range
al-Hussein 600 km
al-Hijarah 750 km
al-Abbas 900 km
al-Abid (Tammuz-2) 3,000 km
Source: Federation of American Scientists

88 posted on 03/20/2003 3:52:49 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
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To: ezoeni
JS: Turkey is expected to pass over flight today
89 posted on 03/20/2003 3:52:49 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: maquiladora
Uh OH.....MSNBC has a live shot of somewhere...can't tell where..looks like Baghdad.
90 posted on 03/20/2003 3:53:46 AM PST by Dog (God Bless America!)
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To: Jason Kauppinen
So a SCUD has a range greater than 90 miles?

Yes. SCUD were the missiles fired from Iraq to Israel during Desert Storm = greater than 90 miles.

91 posted on 03/20/2003 3:53:55 AM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
The mayor of Hollywood speaks - demands calm - Calls For Massive Dimrat Uprising in U.S. . .

   


Saddam Hussein, on Iraqi television, in a message broadcast after the missiles and bombs hit, telling Iraqis they will be victorious and humiliate their enemies. (Photo: IRAQI TV)

92 posted on 03/20/2003 3:54:13 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
JS has ripped old Blixy baby
93 posted on 03/20/2003 3:54:25 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: Dog
"Uh OH.....MSNBC has a live shot of somewhere...can't tell where..looks like Baghdad. "

More info please!!!
94 posted on 03/20/2003 3:54:44 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
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To: Dog
Uh OH.....MSNBC has a live shot of somewhere...can't tell where..looks like Baghdad.

Whats the problem?

95 posted on 03/20/2003 3:55:10 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: The Wizard
?? "JS has ripped old Blixy baby" ??
96 posted on 03/20/2003 3:55:33 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Thats all.....split screen of Straw and the live roof top stot...nothing else yet.
97 posted on 03/20/2003 3:55:43 AM PST by Dog (God Bless America!)
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To: The Wizard
Yep. Very well spoken. Has been a great ally . . .

I especially like it when he slams the French. :o)
98 posted on 03/20/2003 3:55:51 AM PST by theophilusscribe
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To: Happy2BMe
Body double...notice he isn't seen with the man behind him...my guess is he is much smaller than Saddam......
99 posted on 03/20/2003 3:55:56 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: Happy2BMe
Is that even really Saddam??
100 posted on 03/20/2003 3:56:48 AM PST by Green
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