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Joseph Stalin, Ruthless Marxist Dictator, 73, Dies [OBITUARY]
The New York Times ^
| March 6, 1953
| Staff
Posted on 03/19/2003 9:49:10 AM PST by paulklenk
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Hope this hasn't been double posted...
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posted on
03/19/2003 9:49:10 AM PST
by
paulklenk
Something to help Saddam get to know one of his potential hell-mates.
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posted on
03/19/2003 9:50:08 AM PST
by
paulklenk
To: paulklenk
"I like old Joe. Joe is a decent fellow, but he is a prisoner of the Politburo." Spectacularly wrong. A joke. Stalin killed off the only Politburo he didn't own outright. They were among the first victims of what was misnamed the "Yezhov Terror." It should have been the "Stalin Terror."
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posted on
03/19/2003 9:54:45 AM PST
by
VadeRetro
To: paulklenk
Interesting how much the NY Times admired Stalin.
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posted on
03/19/2003 9:55:23 AM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: VadeRetro
Good point.
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posted on
03/19/2003 9:55:45 AM PST
by
paulklenk
To: Cicero
Oh, the Times practically wet itself with glee over Stalin.
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posted on
03/19/2003 9:56:31 AM PST
by
paulklenk
To: VadeRetro
Forgot the attribution:
"I like old Joe. Joe is a decent fellow, but he is a prisoner of the Politburo." -- US President Harry Truman.
[Shaking head]
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posted on
03/19/2003 9:56:44 AM PST
by
VadeRetro
To: paulklenk
And the purpose of this 50 year old article is.......????
To: Mind-numbed Robot
Just a little history, bot-boy. Something to un-numb your mind...
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posted on
03/19/2003 10:04:12 AM PST
by
paulklenk
To: Mind-numbed Robot
The purpose of the article, I gather, is to see how the press of the day viewed a man who was one of the worst mass-murderers in history. I find it a fascinating article.
To: paulklenk
Now. Who can find the testimony that Stalin is one of Hillary's "Most Admired Persons"? I keep claiming this but am in need of documnetation to back it up.
To: paulklenk
Now. Who can find the testimony that Stalin is one of Hillary's "Most Admired Persons"? I keep claiming this but am in need of documentation to back it up.
To: paulklenk
Darn! Franco still dying,
![](http://users3.ev1.net/~d_c_lee/sonofatpatcher2/HowQuick.jpg)
Adolph tooling around Paris. Now Joe is gone. What is this world coming to?
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posted on
03/19/2003 10:18:50 AM PST
by
sonofatpatcher2
(Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
To: paulklenk
Stalin took and kept the power in his country through a mixture of character, guile and good luck.That's my favorite line in this pile of crap.
To: big ern
Stalin took and kept the power in his country through a mixture of character, guile and good luck."Look at me! I am full of character, guile, and good luck and the NY Times loves me!"
To: cebadams
history ping!
To: paulklenk
Good point. This NYT obit makes vague reference to something it calls only "the purges." It's Stalin's terror. Arrests, interrogations, farcical trials, imprisonments, slave labor, and executions on a scale we cannot easily imagine.
To: paulklenk
Notice the almost-worshipful tone ?
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posted on
03/19/2003 1:02:00 PM PST
by
genefromjersey
(Nunc Carborundum Illegitimati !)
To: paulklenk
But those who survived the purges hailed Stalin as a supreme genius. It wasn't many. Of the 1996 delegates to the Bolsheviks' 1934 "Congress of Victors" 1108 dies during the terror. Prior to WWII Stalin purged: 3 of the 5 marshals, 13 of 15 army commanders, 8 of 9 fleet admirals and admirals grade 1, 50 of 57 corps commanders, 154 of 186 divisional commanders, all 16 army political commissars, 25 of 28 corps commissars, 58 of 64 divisional commissars, all 11 vice commissars of defense, and 98 of the 108 members of the Supreme Military Soviet. (Gosh, I wonder why the Wehrmacht walked all over them?)
I have a couple of FReepers to thank for recommending to me a truly bloodcurdling treatment of "Uncle" Joe - Martin Amis's Koba the Dread - Laughter and the 20 Million. The number refers to the number of people killed by good ol' Joe during the collectivization campaigns and the Terror. I quote its opening lines:
Here is the second sentence of Robert Conquest's "The Harvest of Sorrow...": "We may perhaps put this in perspective in the present case by saying that in the actions here recorded about twenty human lives were lost for, not every word, but every letter, in this book." That sentence represents 3040 lives. The book is 411 pages long.
I do not think I shall be celebrating anything about Stalin, thanks - my only regret about his passing is that it was from natural causes.
To: Billthedrill
In the bitter factional polemics that ensued, Stalin played the left against the right and vice versa, and eventually defeated both, as well as Trotsky.
trilangulation ? ... carvile
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