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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Good ideological debate is always educational, that is as long as it is honest. David from is flat out dishonest. Check out this quote from his NR article:

Irving Kristol, who sometimes seemed to be the only person in America willing to accept the "neoconservative" label

Now check out the site neoconservatism.com and tell me Kristol is the only one other than paleos to accept the neocon label. Neos coined the term themselves and proudly wave it but if one who is not a member of their group uses it then it is fabricated slander and is racist code word for Jew (which not directly stated by Frum here in so many words but has been widely stated by neocon defenders as any one who follows these debates is fully aware). In short Frum is a deceitful propagandist and a malicious one at that - any conservative who is not a neocon is a racist, nazi bigot!

Speaking of ideological debates check out this list from the neoconservatism.com site -

Rival Conservative Perspectives:
*Libertarianism
*Paleoconservatism
*Religious Right

How many social conservatives knew that they were considered a rival by the neocons and not a friendly branch of the same movement?

I see that they also categorize Libertarianism as conservative - which is good but will shock and dismay many freepers who somehow feel liberty is equivalent to socialism. So the defense of individual rights, championing limited government and strict interpretation of the constitution is a rival philosophy to neoconservatism. Some of us have been arguing that for a long time and took a lot of flak for it - nice to see the neocons say it in their own words. That should end a lot of needless bickering around here.

49 posted on 03/19/2003 9:02:46 AM PST by u-89
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To: u-89
Irving Kristol, who sometimes seemed to be the only person in America willing to accept the "neoconservative" label

Now check out the site neoconservatism.com and tell me Kristol is the only one other than paleos to accept the neocon label.

"Seemed to be" past tense. You need to work on on your reading comprehension.

So9

54 posted on 03/19/2003 9:07:59 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can Do anything we damned well please.)
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