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George's big mistake was to listen to Tony
dailytelegraph.co.uk ^ | 16/03/2003 | Anne Applebaum

Posted on 03/15/2003 9:25:31 PM PST by Destro

George's big mistake was to listen to Tony

By Anne Applebaum

(Filed: 16/03/2003)

Practically nobody is willing to say it, so let us be as frank as possible: the decision to conduct the invasion of Iraq in consultation with the United Nations - a decision taken by President George W Bush partly to mollify his friend Tony Blair - has been utterly disastrous. Even if it proves possible to bribe Guinea and Angola and Chile into voting for a second UN resolution - even if the French, miraculously, change their minds about the whole thing tomorrow - the diplomatic events of the past week will go down in history as the most embarassing for the United States and Britain in a long time.

Despite cajoling and bribery and flattery, Colin Powell and Jack Straw have found it nearly impossible to persuade the UN Security Council of the necessity of deposing Saddam Hussein by military force. Even Mexico, a country dependent on American trade, has refused to go along easily. Even Mr Bush's new best friend, Vladimir Putin, doesn't seem interested in co-operating.

There are three explanations for the disaster, each propounded, to various degrees, by different factions here in Washington, and each with some merit. One of them, the "I-told-you-so" faction, argues that all of this was inevitable, and that the real mistake was to go through the UN at all.

Even last autumn, when the Security Council seemed prepared to accept the American request for a "last chance" round of weapons inspections in Iraq, some feared a trap. If the inspectors found weapons, that would prove that Saddam was co-operating. If the inspectors did not find weapons, that would prove he didn't have weapons. In the event, the opponents of an invasion have managed to cite both the paucity of weapons and Saddam's belated, reluctant destruction of a handful of rockets as reasons not to invade. The result: the inspections process itself became an excuse to oppose war, as many predicted it would.

Alternatively, blame can be (and is, rather loudly) laid upon Mr Bush. He is at fault, to begin with, for failing to consult America's allies until last autumn, when preparations for war were already under way. He is also to blame for hitching the UN process to the American military's timetable, which dictates a war in the spring and not in the summer. If it were not for that, the inspections could just continue for a few more months, until all of the members of the Security Council had been shamed into admitting that the process had degenerated into farce. There would then be no need for a second resolution, no reason for Mr Bush and Mr Blair to humiliate themselves begging the Security Council members for their support.

Finally, there is a good, and not entirely sarcastic, case for blaming the French president, Jacques Chirac. His vehement refusal to countenance any kind of war in Iraq seems to have taken even Colin Powell by surprise. Without France's loud opposition, and without President Chirac's claim that this is all about "American power", not about Iraq, it is hard to see how Guinea and Mexico would have had the nerve to stand up against the United States, and hard to see how this would have evolved into the diplomatic disaster that it has become.

But that is the past. In the present, the flawed UN process, Mr Bush's lackadaisical attitude to alliances and French obstructionism have brought us to an extremely odd moment in diplomatic history. Weirdly, the fate of Mr Bush, of Mr Blair, and possibly of the international system itself, at least the one we have known since 1945, are now dependent on the results of a war in an obscure patch of Middle Eastern desert.

If the war is a great victory, if it lasts just a few days, and if it results in a democratic Iraq, Mr Bush will get a chance of being re-elected, Mr Blair will be vindicated, France will be cowed. A new Nato will probably rise from the ashes, centred on the "new" Europe: America, Britain, Spain, eastern Europe. The UN Security Council could lose its role as a body which blesses American interventions. The ability of European states such as Britain and Spain to make their own foreign policy, outside the European Union, will be strengthened.

But the war does not have to be lost to produce quite a different result. If it lasts much longer than it is supposed to do, if it degenerates into civil war, if the fighting in Baghdad is bloody and chaotic and expensive, then the aftermath may look quite different. President Bush may be finished, along with Mr Blair and Nato. France and Germany will once again be the most important countries in the EU. The next US president will think twice before doing anything without UN approval, and the next British prime minister will think twice before involving himself in foreign adventures without the explicit permission of his European colleagues.

There is an analogy with Suez here, although it is not precise. If the lesson of Suez was that Britain can't do anything without America, the lesson of a botched war in Iraq will be that a British prime minister can no longer make foreign policy outside the confines of the EU or act in defiance of Germany and France. The stakes are high here, much higher than the mere political futures of Mr Bush and Mr Blair. It is disturbing to think how much damage Saddam's Iraq, even in defeat, might still be able to wreak.

Anne Applebaum is on the editorial board of the Washington Post


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: iraq
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No more pep rallies, no more self delsions. We are Republicans and thus realists. The Bush administrations diplomatic efforts on gaining U.N. support (i.e. a U.N. fig leaf for war) have been a failure. That's what Bush gets for listening to a socialist sc*m like Blair who has ruined England, helped ruin the Balkans and now has ruined us.
1 posted on 03/15/2003 9:25:31 PM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
He may be a socialist, but he is certainly brave, a brave socialist. There are very few of them, for sure.

Getting 1441 was a pretty good move, but everything thereafter was totally unnecessary. I heard that Powell had convinced GW that he could get the votes for the 2nd resolution. So, I do not think I would point my middle finger at Blair.
2 posted on 03/15/2003 9:34:40 PM PST by whadizit (A)
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To: Destro
Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld were right and Powell was wrong.
3 posted on 03/15/2003 9:34:58 PM PST by Pukka Puck
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To: Destro
Bush is not the guy making the mistakes. Saddam made a huge miscalculation. France (and the UN) made a bizarre decision, turning their backs on the U.S. to back terrorism. Screw France. Screw the UN. The bombing starts in five days. The UN is hereby and forthwith totally irrelevant. God Bless America!

4 posted on 03/15/2003 9:36:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Save our sovereignty. Dump the UN! Save our sanity. Dump the RATs!)
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To: Destro
If any good has come from this pointless UN exercise, it has shown the American public and alot of the world how useless the UN is and especially how much Germany and France show no graditude for all that we have done for them.
5 posted on 03/15/2003 9:36:22 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Jim Robinson
Amen.
6 posted on 03/15/2003 9:36:59 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: Destro
No mistake, just a protracted schedule. In the meantime, the Democrats, the UN, France, Germany, the Dixie Chicks....showed their true colors for all to see. They will lose along with Saddam.
7 posted on 03/15/2003 9:37:00 PM PST by Consort
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To: Pukka Puck
What's wrong with going to the UN?

The Foxnews poll yesterday said that 71% of Americans are now in favor of taking iraq out now when it was less than 50% three months ago.

A point was proven that the UN is Usless !

8 posted on 03/15/2003 9:37:09 PM PST by america-rules
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To: whadizit
Brave socialism is the worst kind of foolhardiness. Blair fooled lots of Americans into calling his pinko socialist ass "Churchillian" which I am sure made that great Torie spin in his grave.
9 posted on 03/15/2003 9:37:38 PM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
As my southern grandmother used to say "sometimes you just have to cull your friends". LOL
10 posted on 03/15/2003 9:39:04 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: Destro
You sure are gloomy, and disrespectful to an ally who has put his own career on the line to back us up. Blair may be a socialist, but he's been true to his word. In no way re we "ruined". If anything this BS with the UN, frustrating as it is, has served the purpose of conivincing the American people just how worthless that institution is. A few weeks ago the majority of Americans did not support going to war without UN approval. Now 71% of them do, and 80% say the US not the UN should decide the issue. So in that way Blair may have done us a favor.

In any case, we are going in a few days, and in the end the delay won't have changed the result. Saddam will be gone, and we will occupy Bagdhad.
11 posted on 03/15/2003 9:39:40 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Destro
Bushs real mistake was in listening to Colin Powell and the state department. They proffered the absurd advice that the US should depend on the UN for legitimization of our foriegn policy.

After the war is over, I hope Bush sacks Powell. Then the President should get a Secretary of State with more backbone.

12 posted on 03/15/2003 9:39:42 PM PST by Mark Hamilton ("You can't reason somebody out of something they did'nt reason themselves into.")
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To: Pukka Puck
Amen...it was Colin, not Tony, who lead us down this road AGAIN.
13 posted on 03/15/2003 9:43:02 PM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: Hugin
The debacle at the UN may have helped Bush, but also note that it has damaged Blair. Blair has been losing ground since 1441's deadline.

No doubt he is a brave man, but the effort to help him may, in fact, destroy him. In a few days, we will know.

14 posted on 03/15/2003 9:43:54 PM PST by Mark Hamilton ("You can't reason somebody out of something they did'nt reason themselves into.")
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To: Destro
As much as I would like to find a scapegoat for the current situation that has us trying to gain the support of the U.N. to enforce resolutions that the U.N. created to begin with, I can't.......Tony Blair could have taken the path of least resistance and followed the opinion Polls and buried his head in the sand, much like the Chiraq and Schroeder did after Resolution 1441 was ignored by Saddam.

My hat is off to Tony Blair for taking a principled stand, and I appreciate the fact that George W. Bush was willing to spend political capitol on Tony Blair and others as he agreed to try and get another reolution that sanctioned War against Saddam if he didn't disarm.

The way I see this ending up .... is that at the end of the day we will find the WMD's and the torture chambers and everything else Saddam said he didn't have, and those who threatened to veto the resolution that would help Tony Blair and others will have egg all over their faces.

Tony Blair might be from the liberal Labour Party, But he has more "Chalupa's" than any liberal Democrat in this country and I say we could use a few people like Blair among the useless liberals we have in this country.

I would trade Lincoln Chafee, John McCain or a host of other leftist republicans for Tony Blair any day of the week

15 posted on 03/15/2003 9:45:02 PM PST by MJY1288 (It's Time To Roll)
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To: Hugin
I have no allies amongst socialists. Blair did what he did for his own reasons and he screwed all up. We are fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.

And your right I have nothing but disprespect for Blair and his Labour party.

16 posted on 03/15/2003 9:48:10 PM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Mark Hamilton
and Rumsfeld too and Wolfowitz.
17 posted on 03/15/2003 9:48:48 PM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
My friend, you have said it all......
18 posted on 03/15/2003 9:49:13 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Saddam's ass is grass and we own the lawn mower...)
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To: Destro
I don't think the stakes are quite so high as the author suggests. Every situation is different, and the underlying power of the various nations, and their various interests, are a constant. Neither outcome the author suggests is likely to obtain. It will be much messier than that, because people are messy, and thus the planet.
19 posted on 03/15/2003 9:49:56 PM PST by Torie
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To: Democratshavenobrains
If any good has come from this pointless UN exercise, it has shown the American public and alot of the world how useless the UN is and especially how much Germany and France show no graditude for all that we have done for them.

I agree. The UN chirades were shown twice on TV every network at least in my metropolitan area. ABC, CBS, and NBC probabaly thought by showing the UN meetings it would turn public opinion against Bush, but what it did was show the bloviating arrogance and appeasment by the French and Germans.

20 posted on 03/15/2003 9:49:58 PM PST by Dane
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