I missed this bit. Gunners don't want any data collection? That seems odd, since in the last 10 years the data has been the gunners friend. Yep, it suprised me too a bit. Sometimes one's intuition as to how things will play out is proven wrong. When that happens, some of us adjust our opinions. Others simply have too much cultural iconic baggage to allow data to influence their opinions. That is understandable, but in an honest debate, it should be acknowledged.