Senate Backs 'Partial Birth' Abortion Ban

Washington Post ^ | Thursday, March 13, 2003;

[Tulsa Brian]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate on Thursday easily approved a controversial ban on a procedure critics call "partial birth abortion."

The bill must go to the House, where it is expected to pass easily. President Bush has said he will sign it.

Congress has passed a ban several times since 1995 but then President Bill Clinton vetoed it, citing its lack of an exception to protect the health of a woman.

Critics of the bill say it is unconstitutional because it lacks a health exception and is vaguely worded, meaning it might forbid other abortion methods as well. A court challenge is likely.

[Tulsa Brian]

Amen

[Servant of the Nine]

When will conservatives learn?
First write a bill so narrow and so clear that it will survive court challenges without question and pass it, even if it isn't but a fraction of what's wanted. Then go back the next year and the next and the next adding incremental slices each time until it is all there.
Overreaching and being overturned accomplishes nothing but making conservatives look like radical loons.

So9

[LetsRok]

This may be a trick by the Democrats to have the Republicans withdrawl the Estrada nomination so that they can vote on this. Once he is withdrawn the Democratic support for this legislation will mysteriously evaporate.

[JesusIsLord]

Overreaching and being overturned accomplishes nothing ...

I would hardly call ending infanticide "overreaching".

[Servant of the Nine]

If you pass more than you can sustain in court you have overreached even if it's genocide. What matters is winning, not striking a pose.

SO9

[Tulsa Brian]

Let's hope the Republicans stand firm on both issues.
We need both passed.

[Sonar5]

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GREAT NEWS

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Read The Bill Here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:1:./temp/~c108FCiZBb::

The United States Senate has passed the partial Birth Abortion Ban by a vote of 64-33-3.

The House will pass a similar measure, it will then go to conference, and the President, George W. Bush, will sign this bill into law later in the Spring.

Unlike that baby killer supporter President clinton from the 105th Congress.
(If you recall, The Senate and the House passed this bill in the 105th, but clinton used a veto to stop its implementation)

Two of the benefits of this bill are:

`(2) the term `physician' means a doctor of medicine or osteopathy legally authorized to practice medicine and surgery by the State in which the doctor performs such activity, or any other individual legally authorized by the State to perform abortions: Provided, however, That any individual who is not a physician or not otherwise legally authorized by the State to perform abortions, but who nevertheless directly performs a partial-birth abortion, shall be subject to the provisions of this section.

`(c)(1) The father, if married to the mother at the time she receives a partial-birth abortion procedure, and if the mother has not attained the age of 18 years at the time of the abortion, the maternal grandparents of the fetus, may in a civil action obtain appropriate relief, unless the pregnancy resulted from the plaintiff's criminal conduct or the plaintiff consented to the abortion.

Finally, someone respects the rights of the co-creator and equal partner in the creation of the child, the Father.

Score one for the side of good, and strike one down for the forces of evil, IMHO. [Big Grin]

Thank You United States Senate.

Proof that LIFE MATTERS

SO Let us see who supported the continued murder of children, shall we.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00051

The pathetic baby-killer supporters are:

NAYs ---33
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Collins (R-ME)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

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Now, Look closely at these THREE HYPOCRITES, who didn't bother to vote.

Not Voting - 3
Biden (D-DE)
Edwards (D-NC)
Kerry (D-MA)

Yeah, some Presidential material there, too afraid to vote on the single most important issue in the world, IMHO. That of Life Itself.

How come these 3 democrats don't have a spine? They must be afraid of the United States Citizens in the 2004 election.

This will come back to haunt them, though.

"Sen. Edwards & Kerry, if you support Abortion, why didn't you bother to vote on the Partial Birth Abortion Bill?"

Ummm...Ummm...Ummm....Can't we talk about President Bush, who actually makes decisions instead?

Bwahahahahha......

Regards,
Joe

[Tulsa Brian]

Thank you for the roll call. Presidential material my butt.

[JesusIsLord]

If you pass more than you can sustain in court you have overreached ...

You're absolutely right. However, I believe that theres's a good change that this Supreme court will uphold this law (5-4). I believe O'Conner would be the swing vote.

[secret garden]

Thanks for the link!

[2timothy3.16]

Joe, thanks. You saved me a ton of time, I appreciate it and may the Lord do to those who support abortion that which the abortionist do to the baby in the womb!

[RicocheT]

The fact this finally came to a vote in the Senate illustrates why the recent Republican majority was so important.

Now, let's get the Bush judicial appointments confirmed and on the bench to make sure good laws such as no partial-birth abortions don't get nixed by liberal judges.

[Tulsa Brian]

I couldn't agree more. All that remains to be seen is if the Republicans have wherewithal to stand and deliver in the face of all the predictable Democrat objections/tactics.