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Mandate may be abandoned before war
Evening Standard (U.K.) ^
| 03/12/03
Posted on 03/12/2003 1:37:41 PM PST by Pokey78
Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has acknowledged that Britain may have to abandon hopes of securing a new UN resolution before going to war with Iraq.
At a news conference at the Foreign Office, he repeatedly refused to say whether the draft resolution tabled by Britain, the US and Spain would be put to a vote in the Security Council.
Earlier, his Spanish counterpart Ana Palacio openly accepted that the resolution may be withdrawn, citing the threat by President Jacques Chirac to wield the French veto "whatever the circumstances".
The acceptance that the resolution may have to be dropped will have come as a bitter blow to Tony Blair, who desperately needs a new UN mandate for war if he is to avoid a potentially catastrophic split in the Labour Party.
Earlier, at Prime Minister's Questions, Mr Blair had assured Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith that he still intended to put the resolution to a vote in the Security Council.
He even announced a series of six "benchmarks" against which Iraqi compliance with UN demands to disarm could be judged in a final attempt to win round the undecided council members.
But just five hours later, Mr Straw refused to guarantee that there would be a vote on a new resolution before military action was launched.
"What I guarantee is that we are working as hard as we possibly can to secure a second resolution," he said.
"We are having to do so in circumstances in which one of the the permanent members of the Security Council has said, whatever the circumstances, they will veto a resolution, so that is not easy.
"But that's where we are at the moment that we have to make other decisions in the light of circumstances."
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: seccouncilvote
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:37:41 PM PST
by
Pokey78
To: Pokey78
We don't need it. Let's roll.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:39:00 PM PST
by
mhking
(Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
To: Pokey78
We are having to do so in circumstances in which one of the the permanent members of the Security Council has said, whatever the circumstances, they will veto a resolution, so that is not easy. How reasonable of Chiraq...veto no matter what the circumstances, eh?
No need for a second resolution under those circumstances. Time to roll.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:41:37 PM PST
by
Happygal
To: Pokey78
Those benchmarks are a joke and a cakewalk for lying Saddam...no acountability.
We better either NOT propose the benchmarks or drop the resolution altogether.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:42:04 PM PST
by
rwfromkansas
(Soli Deo Gloria!)
To: mhking
Damn straight. The UN can pound sand, while our soldiers march toward Baghdad.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:42:26 PM PST
by
Constitution Day
(** RALLY FOR AMERICA: Raleigh, NC ** http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/861481/posts)
To: Pokey78
The fact that the so-called second resolution has any life left in it at all tells me one thing, and it isn't good: Bush is still listening to Powell, the (former) Perfumed Prince of the Pentagon who is just another ego-driven one world enthusiast in striped pants. He is taking W's political future down in the process, and paving the way for a RAT landslide next year. Nobody hopes I'm wrong more than I do...
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:42:46 PM PST
by
clintonh8r
(It is better to be feared than to be respected.)
To: mhking
Tony Blair needs is, and he needs us right now.
Blair has been there for Bush and the US at every turn, we need to be there for him.
Dubya needs to go and stand up for Tony in Parliament.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:44:09 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Darkdrake Lives!)
To: Happygal
After Iraq, Chiraq.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:45:08 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Darkdrake Lives!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
You're kidding. All the delays have been to give Blair cover. We needed him when Powell convinced everybody that the UN and world "opinion" mattered. As it turns out, that whole "strategery" was a huge mistake. Now, we're a political liability to Blair and he's an impediment to our military plans because of more delays. Time for an amicable divorce while it's still possible.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:47:42 PM PST
by
clintonh8r
(It is better to be feared than to be respected.)
To: clintonh8r
No, this hasn't been a mistake.
This will topple the UN.
There's never been any question that we're going in.
There was one world leader sitting in the audience when Bush delivered his post 9/11 speech, that was Tony Blair.
You can't hang him out to dry.
Comment #11 Removed by Moderator
To: Pokey78
Time to say that we go in based on 1441, in the absence of a resolution forbidding it.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:52:07 PM PST
by
js1138
To: Pokey78
How do the Brits feel about the French? Somehow I never thought of them as Francophiles... you'd think Blair could channel that dislike somehow the same way more and more Americans are siding with Bush.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:52:22 PM PST
by
Spyder
(Just another day in Paradise)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Militarily, we never needed the Brits. We would not have needed them politically if W hadn't followed Powell's disastrous advice to go to the UN for "approval." Far from hanging him out to dry, I think going it alone would actually be a favor to Blair at this point. It would relieve him of a huge political liability. Besides, we're in a very difficult position now. We would be better off unfettered by allies and the agendas they bring with them. Go in now and go in alone.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:54:22 PM PST
by
clintonh8r
(It is better to be feared than to be respected.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Up until a few hours ago, I was with you. Then, my jaw dropped at how WEAK a resolution Britain is proposing. It is not even remotely tough....not even remotely. It is something that FRANCE would love. We are the the ones that are caving and being made to look bad when we propose this tomorrow, not the U.N. since they will go along and guess what, so will Iraq (it was reported earlier on the radio that Iraq is having a dance about this resolution...they love it!) That will spell the end of any of Bush's agenda in getting rid of Saddam.
Sorry, but if Bush doesn't say screw the UN tomorrow, he will have lost some support from me.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:54:37 PM PST
by
rwfromkansas
(Soli Deo Gloria!)
Comment #16 Removed by Moderator
To: Luis Gonzalez
There was one world leader sitting in the audience when Bush delivered his post 9/11 speech, that was Tony Blair.
You're right, Luis....a trip to London is in order; mach schnell!
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:56:28 PM PST
by
ErnBatavia
((Bumperootus!))
To: rwfromkansas
It will also spell the end of any realistic hope for re-election. A great opportunity, squandered.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:57:18 PM PST
by
clintonh8r
(It is better to be feared than to be respected.)
To: Luis Gonzalez; colorado tanker; MLedeen
Michael Ledeen wrote an interesting article (link below). Taking that into account, the French antics seem to make sense. He seems to want Tony Blair neutralized or out as Prime Minister.
If Chirac wants Blair out of the way, then I think we need to make sure that does NOT happen.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/861106/posts
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:57:21 PM PST
by
hchutch
("Last suckers crossed, Syndicate shot'em up" - Ice-T, "I'm Your Pusher")
To: hchutch
...and the best way to do that would be to let him off the hook. That way, he's disassociated from us on this issue, and we have much more latitude in how we go after Iraq.
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posted on
03/12/2003 1:59:12 PM PST
by
clintonh8r
(It is better to be feared than to be respected.)
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