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Snowmobile Ban Bill; Piece of Florida Preserved
Environmental News Service ^ | March 6, 2003

Posted on 03/12/2003 8:41:58 AM PST by cogitator

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I would love to take a snowmobile trip through Yellowstone, but I actually favor the ban. What we need are non- polluting and quiet snowmobiles.
1 posted on 03/12/2003 8:41:58 AM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
I read the head line and thought that Snowmobiles were to be banned in Florida. First thought was that Michigan should retaliate by banning growing Orange trees.

Guess I need more sleep.
2 posted on 03/12/2003 8:49:48 AM PST by garyb
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Why not just put a couple of "Snowmobile Tags" on hunting licenses and let varmit hunters with .50 cals thin the herd?
It would be more sporting and could even become a TV series.

So9

3 posted on 03/12/2003 8:51:49 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (Republicans for Sharpton)
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To: *Enviralists; farmfriend
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4 posted on 03/12/2003 8:52:20 AM PST by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: garyb
LOL! Same here--first thought was 'just another wasted day in Congress.'

After reading the article, then I decided...'just another wasted day in Congress.'

5 posted on 03/12/2003 8:52:39 AM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: cogitator
More restrictions on freedom.

BS! Just ban ALL vehicles from these places. ALL. Make the envirowhackos WALK to see the pretty animals. Make joe six-pack(me) get off his azz and hike in. Pull all the roads up and return it to nature.

While we're at it lets outlaw breathing since every single person exhales carbon dioxide.

We do NOT need this. If I wanna scream by bambi doing 100 mph then thats MY bizness.

We need more laws like we need another 9-11.
6 posted on 03/12/2003 8:54:21 AM PST by Stopislamnow
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We do NOT need this. If I wanna scream by bambi doing 100 mph then thats MY bizness.

Well, you also scream by other users who don't care to smell a stinkin' two-cycle engine and hear all that noise. Having said that, I think a ban is stupid - Yellowstone is big enough to have snowmobiles in part of it and non-engine recreational use in other parts. But IMO the snowmobiler community has brought a lot of this on itself by their lack of consideration for other users of the outdoors in winter, and the snowmobile industry has been slow to shift over to four-cycle engines with adequate mufflers.

7 posted on 03/12/2003 9:00:10 AM PST by dirtboy (The Pentagon thinks they can create TIA when they can't even keep track of their own contractors)
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To: cogitator
Yellowstone is the people's park

Who does he think is on the snowmobiles? Moose?

9 posted on 03/12/2003 9:02:49 AM PST by Stay the course
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To: walkingman
I worked in Yellowstone... we referred to people like you as Tourons


Typical Govt Employee. Calling people names and screaming "its for the children/environment" while delivering substandard work, opposing freedom and passing the buck so someone else needs hired by the govt to clean up the mess they made by not doing thier job properly in the first place.

Glad you said "worked" and not work, there's still hope.

10 posted on 03/12/2003 9:16:13 AM PST by Stopislamnow
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To: cogitator
I was in Yellowstone last winter, and did not see one gas mask. I think many of these people who oppose snowmobiling in yellowstone, should have to take one of the trips, or at least set foot there in the dead of winter. I think by the end of a trip they might start questioning the methods used by those who say great and un-manageable damage is occurring.

I think it is fair to say we don't have unbiased observers here formulating and reccomending these policies as well. The National Forest Service has become an isolationist group steeped in the fables of ecosystems. They view National Parks in the same manner as the Bio-dome. They do not believe man is part of nature. They are an elitist group who actually covets the lands for themselves, and wish to share it with no one. They take many actions that indicate such.

If you want to see National Parks Destroyed, then reduce the number of people who get to productively use them to near zero numbers. In another 100 years, you will have a generation who has never visited them, known the beauty, adventure, the natural resources, and spiritualism within. It won't be hard for them to decide we could just cut them down, sell them off, or let them burn.

Put succintly, Use 'Em or Lose 'Em.

---- lates

12 posted on 03/12/2003 9:47:13 AM PST by jrawk
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13 posted on 03/12/2003 9:55:15 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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BTTT!!!!!
14 posted on 03/12/2003 10:09:41 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: cogitator
Didnt this idiot say that the park was formed for ALL THE PEOPLE I guess people that ride snowmobiles are not REAL PEOPLE. Typical demo bulls--t.
15 posted on 03/12/2003 10:13:27 AM PST by cksharks
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To: farmfriend
How much you wanna bet that the FWS and Park Service et al will still be able to drive whatever vehicles they want at any time they want, regardless of what's banned.

They are the princes and the lords after all, and don't have to live by the rules.

16 posted on 03/12/2003 10:15:39 AM PST by AAABEST
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I would like to see Senators Lincoln Chafee, a Rhode Island Republican, and Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, Representatives Rush Holt, a New Jersey Democrat, and Connecticut Republican Christopher Shays try and outrun a wolf on foot. Myself, I'll use a snowmobile then when I'm out side the park, a 30-06 to bring him around to being polite and respectful of human beings..
17 posted on 03/12/2003 10:38:20 AM PST by B4Ranch (Politicians, like diapers should be changed often. Stop re-electing these 'good' people!)
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To: cogitator
The only way you could enforce this ban is for park rangers to have snowmobiles to patrol the park. Does that make sense?
18 posted on 03/12/2003 11:02:01 AM PST by Russell Scott ((Saddam, beware the Ides of March))
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The only way you could enforce this ban is for park rangers to have snowmobiles to patrol the park. Does that make sense?

It's not really that hard, and a few forays by individuals aren't really a problem. The snowmobile tours are controlled by contractors, and they enter the park at the gates (just like cars). So they'd really just have to watch the entrances.

19 posted on 03/12/2003 11:33:06 AM PST by cogitator
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I suppose that only government employees and politicians doing "fact-finding" will be the only ones to be allowed to use snowmobiles in the PEOPLE'S PARK.

Sheesh, I can't imagine a better way to travel in a snow covered park.

20 posted on 03/12/2003 11:37:36 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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