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So You Say It's About Oil?
NewsMax.com ^ | March 11, 2003 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 03/11/2003 8:54:41 PM PST by Diddley

So You Say It's About Oil?

The Bush administration, in preparation for the possible ouster of Saddam Hussein and any aftereffects that may entail, is soliciting bids for reconstruction and improvement projects in Iraq.
"Sure," you say, "they're looking for companies to rebuild the oil production capacity after the war." Wrong.

The huge contracts, worth almost a billion dollars initially, are for roads, bridges, schools, hospitals and even mosques that might be damaged. The U.S. is also soliciting emergency bids from some of the nation's biggest construction giants so that we can move fast and show the Iraqi people that we are serious about helping.

The U.S. Agency for International Development is also seeking bids to repair other things that might be damaged in war, or that may simply be dilapidated or outdated, such as airports, the electrical grid, printing operations and the like.

Some of the large companies that will be bidding are Louis Berger Group, Bechtel Group, the Fluor Corporation, and yes, for all you conspiracy theorists out there, a subsidiary of Halliburton - Kellogg, Brown & Root - is developing plans to fight oil well fires in case Saddam lights up the Middle East by blowing up his wells.

Incidentally, the plans are being developed under an existing contract with the government because that is what KB&R does, not because Dick Cheney was the CEO, so let's calm down out there.

So it seems that, contrary to the main argument of appeasement activists, the only thing Iraqi oil will be used for is to build Iraq itself.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bechtelgroup; fluorcorporation; iraq; louisbergergroup; oil; oilwar; postwar; war
The post-war effort will be about re-building (not significantly about "oil").
1 posted on 03/11/2003 8:54:42 PM PST by Diddley
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To: Diddley
who cares as long as no French , German Russian or Chinese company gets a contract
2 posted on 03/11/2003 8:56:38 PM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321
who cares as long as no French , German Russian or Chinese company gets a contract

Or "anti-war" idiots or idiot-companies.

3 posted on 03/11/2003 8:59:03 PM PST by Diddley (Bush is a Conservative-Bot.)
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To: Diddley
The huge contracts, worth almost a billion dollars initially,

Who does Limbacher think he's fooling?
A billion $$$ is penny ante compared to the value of Iraq's oil reserves.

4 posted on 03/11/2003 9:03:31 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Diddley
Of course all the buildings damaged will be repaired as it was the case in Bosnia and Kosovo.

Similar as it was the case in Bosnia and Kosovo the previous administration was a socialist based (as it is in Iraq) and all the state run industries were privatised. There was no consensus on that by the locals. The first thing the UN Administrators (installed by NATO) did and still doing it is that they HAD to decentralise the economy meaning moving into private ownership.

Large state companies in Kosovo were the first to be sold.

Similar the all large state industries (oil) in Iraq will be privatised (sold) to the highest bidder which will not be an Iraqi. When that happens the price of oil in Iraq will be same as it is in West i.e. 10 times it is now. The Iraqies will pay to buy their own oil from the Iraqi based foreign company.

The government will get taxes from the sell of oil within Iraq but that is all they will get. The money from the tax will be used for rebuilding the country.

No it is not about oil.

5 posted on 03/11/2003 9:09:29 PM PST by bobi
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To: Diddley
I'm a programmer for the #1 manufacturer of oil refineries in the world and just for the record, Kellogg, Brown & Root and Fluor are major customers of ours.
6 posted on 03/11/2003 9:12:22 PM PST by ALS
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To: Diddley
And we'll sell their oil - even at $15 a barrel - to pay for it all!
7 posted on 03/11/2003 9:21:11 PM PST by SW6906
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To: Willie Green
A billion $$$ is penny ante compared to the value of Iraq's oil reserves.

I agree with your statement, but what is the point?

8 posted on 03/11/2003 9:25:40 PM PST by Diddley (If you don't answer my questions, I assume that you agree with me.)
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To: bobi
I’m a newbie, and I am a learner. Please help educate me.

The first thing the UN Administrators (installed by NATO) did and still doing {in Kosovo} it is that they HAD to decentralise the economy meaning moving into private ownership. . . .
Similar the all large state industries (oil) in Iraq will be privatised (sold) to the highest bidder which will not be an Iraqi.

Who will get the money from the sale?

When that happens the price of oil in Iraq will be same as it is in West i.e. 10 times it is now.

I don’t understand this point.

The Iraqies will pay to buy their own oil from the Iraqi based foreign company.

If they sell it to a foreign company, The Iraqis get money for that. Then it isn’t theirs anymore, and they have to pay individually, just like anyone else.

The government will get taxes from the sell of oil within Iraq but that is all they will get. The money from the tax will be used for rebuilding the country.

Explain this to me, please. Thanks.

9 posted on 03/11/2003 9:38:14 PM PST by Diddley (FR is a truth-seeking site. [some of us are learners; some of us are teachers].)
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To: Diddley
The new government of Iraq will get the money from the sale

The point is petrol in Iraq is cheap because they have a lot of it.

At the moment the Iragi petrol is Iraqi. It should stay that way. The leadership needs to change though. They are not like everyone else because they have their own oil. Why should they be like every one else.

If they are foolish enough to give up their national resources then the only money the government will ever see will be from taxation.

10 posted on 03/11/2003 10:43:14 PM PST by bobi
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To: bobi
Thanks for clarifying those points.
:-)
11 posted on 03/11/2003 10:47:01 PM PST by Diddley (Bona fide discussions take work. Cliché spouting doesn’t.)
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To: bobi
Access is the key not oil. Oil isn't any good if it can't find a market. A stable Iraq with 20+ year contracts is as good as it gets. Nationalization is a given ever since 1958.

This is the new world order and there's a new cartel on the block. Or will be soon.

12 posted on 03/11/2003 10:58:12 PM PST by nunya bidness (I don't own any "assault rifles", just Homeland Defense Rifles. It's my patriotic duty.)
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To: nunya bidness
Does China care?
13 posted on 03/11/2003 11:06:28 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
As long as the factories are lit and the workers are happy they'll be content.

Remember The Graduate? Plastics son, plastics. Barbie dolls, movie stars, swimming pools.

14 posted on 03/11/2003 11:25:08 PM PST by nunya bidness
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