The legacy of Alfred Kinsey at the Air Force Academy

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, March 11, 2003 | Joan Veon

[JohnHuang2]

Tuesday, March 11, 2003

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[MeekMom]

Thank you John for this thread. Kinsey should have had a 100,000 consecutive life sentences for messing with and messing up all the lives he injured permanently.
He was one evil dude.

[MeekMom]

You need to curb your language and buy a clue. Unfortunately it's old news what Dr. Evil did.

[xm177e2]

One iota of evidence that Hefner supports the child molesters' agenda. Show me that much. Show me a shadow of a hint of an insinuation that he's a pedophile-phile. There is none.

[xm177e2]

If by "Dr. Evil" you mean Kinsey, I have no argument there, it is old news what he did. But Hef? Hef? Show me ONE IOTA of evidence that Hefner supported Kinsey's more radical agenda.

[Vic3O3]

ping

[nopardons]

Not the pedophilia, the part about how " normal " porn is, that marriage is useless, and that FREE LOVE, as it once was called, was hunky-dory. Do yourself a favor and reread ( if you even bothered to read it once ) the article ... slowly. Don't allow yourself to get caught on just one item.

Rather young, are you ?

[xm177e2]

Not the pedophilia, the part about how " normal " porn is, that marriage is useless, and that FREE LOVE, as it once was called, was hunky-dory. Do yourself a favor and reread ( if you even bothered to read it once ) the article ... slowly. Don't allow yourself to get caught on just one item.

So you agree that Hef does not support the pedophiles' agenda? That's good.

My first post was pulled (but sadly, not this whole filthy thread)--In it, I quote directly from the article:

It was Hefner's goal, like Kinsey's, to change state sex-offense laws protective of women and children to conform to what Kinsey said he proved through "science." Hefner's Playboy became the "how to" book for the sexual revolution which was based on fornication, co-habitation, divorce, adultery, abortion, etc.

This article DIRECTLY accuses Hugh Hefner of supporting the pedophiles' agenda. I hope you will join me in condemning this vile slander.

[nopardons]

It is neither " vile " , nor " slander " and you, yourself posted what IS jermain about Heff. Calm down, take a deep breath, re,reread what YOU posted about Hugh Heffner; s-l-o-w-l-y !

Then, answer the following : 1) Were you born after PLAYBOY was a mainstream magazine ?

[xm177e2]

I will ignore your second ad-hominem attack on my age. I'm still waiting for you to prove this:

It was Hefner's goal, like Kinsey's, to change state sex-offense laws protective of women and children

If you can't prove (or even offer any evidence suggesting) that someone wanted to have laws prohibiting sex between adults and children removed from the books, then you have absolutely no right to accuse them of such a thing. It's slanderous and despicable.

[nopardons]

That was NO " ad hominem " ! Your age is relivant, insomuch as IF you are as young as I assume you to be, you don't know what it was like PRIOR to porn becoming " mainstreamed ". You're arguing ONLY about children and totally ignoring W-O-M-E-N . It's NOT just about adult women, it's also about girls, who are teens/20 somethings. Why is that ? It's because your views have been colored by EXACTLY what Kinsey and Heffner brought about.

Omit the word " children " from your sentence and rethink / restate your position. Now, where is the libel ?

You are asking me and others to prove something which we didn't state as fact. WHY ? How about YOU prove the statement concerning Heff is false ? Do it, dear, or stop requesting something that is just a strawman argument.

[txzman]

It doesn't take a genius to know that any kind of extended review of pornography is not healthy, does not promote stable male-female relationships and is not morally acceptable.

I am not being holier than thou, just being honest with simple, human common sense. Those that argue otherwise merely resort to the old "all truth is relative" argument.

[xm177e2]

Omit the word " children " from your sentence and rethink / restate your position. Now, where is the libel ?

Excuse me? Let me rephrase that for you: "aside from calling Hef an advocate of child molestation, there is no libel here"

This is like when DC Mayor Marion Barry said "Aside from the murders, DC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country"

This whole thread is insane, as is anyone who approves of the article.

[sport]

Nope because I believe that he supports it also.

What kin are you to him?

[Taliesan]

Kinsey was bad, the poor ladies at the Academy have "boyfriends" who prefer porno to them, and these two things are somehow related.

Not a very profound analysis.

[nopardons]

What's the matter, dear, you still can't comprehend the written word ? Why are you having this much difficulty understanding the effect mainstreamed pornography has had on this country, for the past several decades AND Kinsey's part in it all ? Are you SO brainwashed, that you don't understand what a Pandora's box he and Hefner opened ? Are you completely unaware that PLAYBOY, in its beginnings, used underaged ( as in C-H-I-L-D ) models ?

Even you spurious attempt to use vapid , incorrect crime stats, from Marian Barry's mayoralship as annaligous to this topic, is laughable !

You think that the whole thread is insane ? Why , because absolutely no one is as illogical, blind, and factless enough to agree with you ? LOL

[xm177e2]

I've never heard of such a thing, although that is a good start. Do you have any evidence he used underage models? I don't see any in this article.

[xm177e2]

Even you spurious attempt to use vapid , incorrect crime stats, from Marian Barry's mayoralship as annaligous to this topic, is laughable !

It's a comparison, I'm making fun of your particular brand of illogic. That's a lot easier for me to do than actually look up the proper name for the fallacy in what you said.

When I make a comparison like that, it's called an "analogy" (not to be confused with "annalingus"). Here are a few more analogies:

"Aside from the bombing, Clinton hardly touched Serbia"

"Aside from the internment, Japanese Americans didn't suffer much at all during WWII"

"Aside from the nicotine, there isn't anything addictive about cigarettes"

etc...

[nopardons]

It's not in this article, no. It is something that I know about, from long, long, LONG ago. That's what comes from being older than you, well read, and having a better than excellent memory.

I don't Google, I NEVER CCP, and I don't recall just which newspaper I read that in, as I have always read so many. Having lived in Chicago, I can tell you, that it was common knowledge there...long before I moved there. No, this doesn't fall into the " gossip " catagory.