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My Camping Trip on the Border
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| 10 March 2003
| JackelopeBreeder
Posted on 03/10/2003 8:30:59 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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There's actually a lot more to this story, but it won't be told until some really great people give me permission.
To: madfly; HiJinx; SandRat; B4Ranch; Spiff; FITZ
Ping!
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posted on
03/10/2003 8:32:43 PM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Good piece. I refuse to make a comment on the butt!
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posted on
03/10/2003 8:47:17 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
(Politicians, like diapers should be changed often. Stop re-electing these 'good' people!)
To: JackelopeBreeder
did you get any pictures? of the trash or damage or anything?
To: JackelopeBreeder
George Bush and Vincente Fox are celebrating it.
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posted on
03/10/2003 8:59:38 PM PST
by
RLK
To: JackelopeBreeder
Them's voters a coming across that river.
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posted on
03/10/2003 9:02:40 PM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
To: JackelopeBreeder
Well done!
To: JackelopeBreeder
Sometimes I think just one good high-profile exposé on these conditions would swing public opinion to the point that there would be a cry for change. But then I remember all the short-sighted apologists that would denounce anyone daring to criticise as racist haters trying to keep poor people from having a better life.
The potential for ridicule keeps most people from working to do anything about the problem. The hypocrisy of others paralyses any deterant action, as in the case of the 'nature lovers' that would fight to jail a hunter that stepped on the wrong blade of grass but who look the other way as foreign invaders trample and trash our land as they break our laws.
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posted on
03/10/2003 9:16:12 PM PST
by
spodefly
(This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
To: JackelopeBreeder
The Nature Conservancy hasnt raised a peep Surprise, Surprise!
To: spodefly
O'Reilly has covered this issue a few times, on the side of policing the borders. He might be interested in covering it.
To: Texas_Jarhead
I could shoot pictures of trash and damage all day all over this county. Even up in the high reaches of the Huachuca Mountains. However, I was thinking of going back to the San Pedro this weekend to document what has happened there.
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posted on
03/10/2003 9:35:45 PM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
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To: spodefly
The Nature Conservancy has a bad rep for hypocrisy here already. When they took over the Ramsey Canyon Preserve, they tried to prevent a local rancher from using the open road through the canyon to reach his property. His other option was a 60 mile detour around the mountains followed by an axle-busting drive over very rough terrain. He won, but the case left a very bad taste in a lot of mouths.
A few months later they asked permission to use part of his land as a staging area for camera crews doing a documentary on the canyon and its wildlife. He agreed -- and they trashed his property.
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posted on
03/10/2003 9:56:23 PM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
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To: razorback-bert
Read all about The Nature Conservancy, and how they are quietly buying up as much land as they can get their greedy hands on, in the Spring 2003
Range Magazine Download Nature's Landlord: The story of the world's most powerful environmental group, the Nature Conservancy. (2.1 mg PDF file, requires Acrobat Reader)
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posted on
03/10/2003 9:58:27 PM PST
by
giotto
To: JackelopeBreeder
You know that old saying about a picture being worth a 1000 words. If you can get ahold of some please post em here so we can snag em and e-mail around. I think playing up the environmental asspect of illegal border crossing is a great way to play lib on lib.
To: Texas_Jarhead
Check your mail...
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posted on
03/10/2003 10:32:49 PM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
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To: Texas_Jarhead; JackelopeBreeder
Thanks for posting your story, JB. Most excellent writing, you wanna come work for me? Oops, forgot, you've already got the best job in the company!
Anyway, let me know when you have pictures, I have web space to host them.
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posted on
03/11/2003 5:57:31 AM PST
by
HiJinx
To: JackelopeBreeder; Free the USA; B4Ranch; FITZ; Yaelle; pgyanke; Tancredo Fan; Joe Hadenuf; ...
Great expose.
Long list of Arizona and Mexico supporters of the TNC San Pedro programs, yet who are silent on the effects of our border invasion.
Also, Lori Faeth, who is Gov. Janet Napolitano's policy adviser for natural resources and the environment, is the Director of Government Relations for The Nature Conservancy of Arizona. She has worked for the Conservancy since 1992 and has experience in creating and passing funding initiatives for conservation at the state and local level, as well as developing public policy measures to further conservation. She represents the Conservancy's Arizona program before the state legislature and Congress and oversees the chapter's public policy program.
Prior to moving to Phoenix, Arizona in 1997, she worked for the World Wide Office of The Nature Conservancy as part of the Government and Community Relations Division.
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posted on
03/11/2003 10:52:00 AM PST
by
madfly
(AZFIRE.org)
To: B4Ranch
LMBO
I refuse to make a comment on the butt!
butt - bump up to top :)
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posted on
03/11/2003 10:54:06 AM PST
by
madfly
(AZFIRE.org)
To: spodefly; EBUCK; JackelopeBreeder; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie
The potential for ridicule keeps most people from working to do anything about the problem. The hypocrisy of others paralyses any deterant action, as in the case of the 'nature lovers' that would fight to jail a hunter that stepped on the wrong blade of grass but who look the other way as foreign invaders trample and trash our land as they break our laws.Well said. Attempting to expose these "nature lovers" as been very hard, but things are changing in one area, the Forest policies. I believe this is because the land grabs, abuses of property rights, "Smart Growth", Agenda 21 have been successfully kept below the radar by the media and therefore not familiar to the average American. These fires weren't happening in a court room. They were very visible and the "if it bleeds, it leads" press have always jumped on the great footage and photos. See this intro to an Article in the Arizona Daily Star, written on the GOPUSA Arizona page this week.
Minus enviro-extremists, subcommittee talks common sense on forest management
Arizona Daily Sun -- March 8, 2003
Using controlled burns, cutting down smaller trees and removing damaged trees were common themes in testimony before a congressional subcommittee meeting in Flagstaff Friday. Radical extremist environmentalists were not invited to the table. With another hot summer approaching, extremists would have just gotten in the way.
Read more...
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posted on
03/11/2003 11:12:23 AM PST
by
madfly
(AZFIRE.org)
To: JackelopeBreeder
There's actually a lot more to this story, but it won't be told until some really great people give me permission.Speaking for some of the really mediocre people please tell us more!
Stay safe; stay armed,
Eaker
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posted on
03/11/2003 11:37:43 AM PST
by
Eaker
(64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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