Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Global Community: Experiencing Anti Americanism at DAVOS
Amitai Etzioni notes ^ | 3-6-02 | Amitai Etzioni

Posted on 03/07/2003 11:40:45 PM PST by LadyDoc

Amitai Etzioni Notes Personal and Communitarian Reflections - March 2003

The Global Community 03:29 PM, March 06, 2003

Experiencing anti-Americanism first-hand is different from reading about it. I am at Davos for the World Economic Forum. Richard Haas, Director of Policy Planning for the State Department, slouches into a session, saying he just has been “hammered” in a previous one. Senator Joseph Biden is so raked over the coals by the head of Human Rights Watch that he explodes, saying that he is “sick and tired of the lectures. In each of your hearts you know we aren't as bad as you make us out to be."

Colin Powell joins a hall which contains some 2000 CEOs and heads of state. He receives a polite round of applause. He provides a detailed justification for the Bush Administration’s position and asks the audience, “Did the United States ask for dominion over a single nation in Europe?” He continues by saying that for the last 100 years, in Germany and Japan and most recently in Afghanistan, when we won a war, we did not seek to hold the land, the G.I.s put down their weapons and helped rebuild the country.

“We have asked for nothing except enough ground to bury them [our soldiers] in.” He got a standing ovation. Next day the European newspapers make him look like a snarling dog and claimed his presentation was a complete bust.

Professor of David Held (London School of Economics) tells the audience that the U.S. lost only three thousand people on 9/11; it kills 30,000 children every month. He refers to poverty and illness, which the U. S. is not doing its share to eradicate. (I lose my cool, and suggest that even one who is very critical of the U.S. would realize the difference between deliberately setting out, in cold blood, to kill thousands of civilians versus not doing one’s share in a complex chain of events, under difficult conditions – for instance, corrupt governments that eat up much of the aid they get. Held has the decency to correct his statement).

To round off the day, a newspaper quotes, “Across four continents, including “friendly” Europe, millions regarded the attacks as a fantasy come true. French author Jean Baudrillard exaggerated only a little when he wrote that “‘everyone without exception had dreamt” of such a cataclysm–adding that Al Queda ‘did it, but we willed it’” (Henri Astier, “Uncle Sam: the relative Europeans love to hate. Three French academics present new perspectives on anti-Americanism.” The Times Literary Supplement. 2003). A poll released November 9, 2002 by The Wisdom Fund identified President Bush as "the biggest threat to justice and peace." When presented with three choices: Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and George Bush, Jr., visitors to The Wisdom Fund web site voted overwhelming for President Bush. It's ugly out there. MORE: "An earful on the war from America's 'allies.'"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; colinpowel; davos; europe; newworldorder; usa
This is the source of the Colin Powel comment that was quoted by Fred Barnes.
1 posted on 03/07/2003 11:40:45 PM PST by LadyDoc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: LadyDoc
http://www.gwu.edu/~ccps/etzioni/B386.html

386. "An earful on the war from America's 'allies.'" The Christian Science Monitor (May 1, 2002) p 9.




If you want to get a feeling for why America's allies are rapidly peeling off from supporting the war on terrorism, the following personal account may help.

It started when a voice from my German audience startled me with the flat statement: "You are in Afghanistan for the oil." When I responded in shock, "Oil?" he corrected himself, "Well, for the pipeline." (He was referring to a pipeline some corporations are considering running from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to a port on the Arabian Sea.)

I was in Germany debating this issue as one of the 60 intellectuals who signed a letter from America supporting the war. The United States justified the war on three grounds: protecting innocents from harm (as distinct from sheer self-defense), a clear and present danger (not just a questionable threat), and that the situation cannot be plausibly mitigated through negotiations.

But back at the debate, organized in Berlin by the Aspen Institute, Ekkehart Krippendorff from the Free University, a well-known, left-leaning professor, argued that it is wrong in principle for intellectuals to support a government. "They should be critical; you never know what a government will do with its power," he said.

During a dinner after the debate, Andrea Fischer, a member of the German parliament from the dovish Green Party, argued that any highfalutin moral blessing of a war was at best troublesome. "Just say it is in self-defense," she said.

At a meeting at the Center for Social Science in Berlin later the same day, a colleague quoted a counter-statement issued in the US by the left, mocking ours, calling us "celebrants of war," and arguing that the US had appropriated the right of self-defense.

I asked the audience, "fair enough, you are critical of what the US is doing. If it is ever justified to go to war, what are your criteria for a call to arms?" When I found no takers, I asked if fighting Hitler was just. This got me a lot of positive nodding, but also a voice from the back of the room: "Saddam is no Hitler; Sharon comes close."

In Afghanistan, the US had some very regrettable collateral damage, but also collateral gain. While the US did not set out merely to liberate women denied the right to work, to education, and to leaving their homes unescorted - or help all to enjoy some form of culture other than prayer - America did bring liberty to millions of Afghans. This, I said, brings up the question: If the US should not fight terror aimed at Americans, how about terror that wipes out other people?

Half a million people were slaughtered in Rwanda in 1994. Should the US intervene with force if another genocide looms? A woman from the audience argued that the UN should act, but it could not last time, because the US failed to pay its dues.

I asked why the European Union did not act on its own, if it was so critical of the way Americans do things? And if the Europeans preferred the way Dutch peacekeepers acted in Srebrenica, Bosnia, where 7,000 Muslims were slaughtered by Serbs while the peacekeepers refused to fire a shot in their defense? I argued that the "collateral damage" of not acting was much higher than America's in Afghanistan, and that the US did its best to minimize it.

The response? I was told that the "official" number of civilian deaths in Afghanistan was 50,000 and that nobody knows what really happened since the US did not allow the press in.

At this point I lost it. I allowed that they could afford to be de facto pacifists, as long as Americans were the bullies, on call to save them. Who kept West Berlin free? Our airlift. Who stopped Hitler? The Dutch? The French? Who stopped the military expansion of communism in Europe?

Renowned historian Jurgen Kocka responded, "You are ... right. If it was not for the US, I would have grown up a Nazi. I am forever grateful."

I felt I had planted a seed, but many more need to be sown and nurtured if the American antiterrorism drive is to keep support overseas. It is time to reestablish the US Information Agency.

The US needs to consult with its allies more about the next moves in the war on terrorism, although America must make clear that if all the allies do is veto what the US considers must be done, without suggesting viable alternatives, America shall go it alone at the end of the day.

The US should also allow more press access during the next rounds of the war. But ultimately, I fear, Americans had better steel themselves to the fact that they shall have to carry much of the burden of defending the free world yet again, while critics crowd the coffee shops of Europe, trading paranoiac stories about US motives and second-guessing every move.

It's sniping we Americans would rather do without, but it is often the price of leadership.

Amitai Etzioni is a university professor at George Washington University and author of The Monochrome Society.
2 posted on 03/07/2003 11:41:55 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LadyDoc

Renowned historian Jurgen Kocka responded, "You are ... right. If it was not for the US, I would have grown up a Nazi. I am forever grateful."


---

And then you have the Europeans who are now leftists/nazis anyway, and so dont give us credit for stopping Hitler and Stalin. We opposed their heroes.
3 posted on 03/07/2003 11:58:01 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: LadyDoc
"...Saddam is no Hitler; Sharon comes close."

I wonder if anyone took this nitwit up on the premise. Would he/she/it then justify an allied invasion of Israel? The bothersome thing about academics is they really aren't too different from the new age Hollywood twits, who can't articulate a response to human evil, except to say that it doesn't exist, or that it can be defeated by pretending it doesn't exist.
4 posted on 03/08/2003 12:07:15 AM PST by farmer18th
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: LadyDoc
It's so easy to "boo" from the bleachers. We are big enough to take it and stick to our game plan.
5 posted on 03/08/2003 12:27:01 AM PST by MEG33
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MEG33
Maybe its time to stop arguing with these people and simply begin to respond by witholding the services we provide...like foreign aid. They want to criticize all while not lifting a finger themselves? fine...cut them off from the aid. We idn't pay our dues....for what reason? Because we were constantly attacked by the UN so we finally had the good sense to cut that aid. Seems to me that a hearty "Eff U" once in a while accomplishes a whole bunch.
6 posted on 03/08/2003 2:36:06 AM PST by Adder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: farmer18th
Some reporter ask the oleaginous Villipin if he was suggesting Israel should be brought up before the security council as Iraq was.I think Plight of the Palestinians was how he dodged the direct question. Middle east problem is a code word.
7 posted on 03/08/2003 2:49:53 AM PST by MEG33
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson