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To: Just mythoughts; Jerry_M; All
Jerry tells you the truth, Justmt. As the scripture below testies, "ALL we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned EVERY one to his own way, and the Lord has laid on Him the INIQUITY OF US ALL." Friend, Jesus was "wounded for YOUR transgressions." You participated in killing him.

Isaiah 53 1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

101 posted on 03/08/2003 8:54:57 AM PST by xzins (Babylon, you have been weighed in the balance and been found wanting!)
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To: xzins
Interesting attempt to try and make this about us, the sinner and killers of Christ.

Further study will show you that to ignore the last three scriptures of Isaiah 52 ignore exactly what and why this was written and what its purpose was.

I will lay out for you the purpose of these words, however, further study must be done to find that words used in this translation have different and more narrow as well as empathic meanings. Also how that these words weave in the other scriptures of the Bible Old and New and must be read in that context to understand.

There was an appointed time for Christ to come in the flesh, and sin not, be killed, all written of before. Christ never said those born after His death were His killers. Oh, He made it clear that we are in fact and deed sinners, however, before He offered repentence to those not yet born and sinned, Note: IPeter 3:18

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the Just for the unjust, that He might brings us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

v19 By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison,

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Not even here is it written that those souls held prisoners back to Noah were called killers, yet those souls who would, in the spirit were offered salvation prior to anyone else.

Isaiah 52:13-53:12 MESSIAH'S PROPITITORY WORK. (Intorversion.)


As coming to fulfil the LAW which was in His heart (PS. 40:6-8).

Isaiah 52:13-15 GENSIS. The Divine counsels concerning Messiah, summarizing Ch. 53 as a whole.

The counsel, "Let Us make" (Gen.1:26), answering to the counsel here, Let Us redeem.

Isaiah 53: 1-3 EXODUS. Messiah taking His place with the nation.



Isaiah 53:4-6 LEVITICUS. Messiah's Relation to Jehovah. His personal work of atonement, the basis of the whole. Jehovah's dealings with him in the Sanctuary.

Isaiah 53:7-10 NUMBERS. Messiah's relation to the earth: finding a grave in it.

Isaiah 53:10-12 - DEUTERONOMY. The outcome, fulfilling the Divine counsels according to the Word. The first member (GENSIS), is shown to be a summary or epitome of the whole by the following arrangement.

52:13. Messiah's presentation
52:14. His sufferings.
52:15 His reward.

53:1-3. Messiah's reception
53:4-10 His sufferings.
53:10-12 His reward.




149 posted on 03/08/2003 6:45:02 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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