[Michael81Dus]

Of course the behaviour of France and Germany is contra-productive for the US- but this is the bad game of policy.
Germany and France try to challenge the US in that question... for whatever the reason may be. Nevertheless, they´re destroying the basics of the relations.

But I´m concerned by the terms used on this board too. You´re not better than F/G when punishing the nations for their opinions. Calling for the invasion of France and Germany is so silly and I just imagine how you would react if French called for the invasion of the US.

We should calm down and define our relations after the war on new basics.

[LaGrone]

My argument is not with you, if you are not in favor of what Schroeder and the present German Government are doing at the UN.

Do you not realize however that by persuading other countries to oppose us at the UN , instead of just voting no to the appropriate resolutions, Germany is in effect taking Saddam's side over the United States?

That is why President Bush wants the vote in the UN, to get every country on the record. His gamble is the certainty that all the chemical stockpiles and biological stockpiles exist in Iraq. Then the French, Russians and possibly the Germans will be exposed for selling materials which were banned and assisted Hussein in his building these weapons.

I don't believe the United States did anything to deserve this treatment by France and Germany. Both countries have made this personal. They hate Bush, and allowed this hate to cloud their judgement IMHO.