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America Admits Suspects Died In Interrogations
Independent (UK) ^ | 3-7-2003 | Andrew Gumbel

Posted on 03/06/2003 6:23:26 PM PST by blam

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To: Normal4me
I'm glad that someone like you cares. I suggest you embark upon a personal inspection tour of terrorist holding locales and report back to us with your findings.
61 posted on 03/06/2003 7:38:22 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Slings and Arrows
engaging in culturally humiliating practices such as having them kicked by female officers.

cool beans

and i expect to see this on You Gotta See This anyday now!

62 posted on 03/06/2003 7:39:59 PM PST by ALS
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To: Normal4me
but killing them is not right

Ok, you are right, I was more in favor of taking them down to the local ZOO for dinner at the lion's cage.

63 posted on 03/06/2003 7:45:07 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: blam
The men's death certificates, made public earlier this week, showed that one captive, known only as Dilawar, 22, from the Khost region, died from "blunt force injuries to lower extremities complicating coronary artery disease" while another captive, Mullah Habibullah, 30, suffered from blood clot in the lung that was exacerbated by a "blunt force injury".

That's a pea ball of dough that's been rolled out into a 2 foot tortilla.

64 posted on 03/06/2003 7:56:38 PM PST by William Terrell (Advertise in this space - Low rates)
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To: blam
Do notice the careful ambiguity in the phrase while under interrogation.

Does that mean, while under the hot lights? Does it mean, while being held for interrogation? Does it mean, while attacking the interrogators with a makeshift weapon?

Every good left-wing journalistic smear-pack has a little deniability-tab on the back of the package. If caught out, just pull the tab and the story dissolves harmlessly for the journalist, of course after thoroughly trashing the target.

65 posted on 03/06/2003 8:01:00 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: blam
The torture the victims of the Sept 11th bombings by these inhuman scum is the only torture I am concerned with. I know that is true, this, who knows? Perhaps they should have co-operated?
Amazing the concern shown for terrorists who live their lives torturing others.
66 posted on 03/06/2003 8:05:59 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: blam
Oh, if the independent Amnesty International says we are mistreating the thugs, I guess I should feel bad. (/barf /sarcasm)
67 posted on 03/06/2003 8:07:37 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: ErnBatavia
It makes me burn up inside every time I see it...
68 posted on 03/06/2003 8:08:48 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: Truthsearcher
The silence is deafening. Kudos to you.
69 posted on 03/06/2003 8:18:27 PM PST by Romulus
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To: blam
Gee golly whiz. I sure by gum believe every word of this. You betcha. Gotta be true, 'cause we're such meanies 'n' stuff.
70 posted on 03/06/2003 8:25:32 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Slings and Arrows
So, anything good on TV?

Maybe they filmed the interrogations!

hulkster

71 posted on 03/06/2003 8:38:10 PM PST by IncredibleHulk
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To: blam
President Bush appeared to encourage extra-judicial solutions in his State of the Union address in January when he talked of al-Qa'ida members being arrested or meeting "a different fate". "Let's put it this way," he said in a tone that appalled many, "they are no longer a problem to the United States and our friends and allies."

Didn't appall me much. He sounded like John Wayne. I felt proud of him.

72 posted on 03/06/2003 9:56:28 PM PST by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: Normal4me
At risk of a flaming, I agree with you. Applying pressure during interrogation is one thing, but if this story is true, someone crossed the line. We signed the Geneva Convention, and we need to either abide by it or bow out. That said, it looks like the system is working, and the people involved will be tried (again, if the story is true).
73 posted on 03/06/2003 11:14:20 PM PST by ellery
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To: Truthsearcher
"The test of one's principles comes with the hard times, not the easy ones. It's easy to support the freedom of speech of someone you agree with, it's supporting those that you disagree with that is the true test of your commitment to the principle of free speech. Same here, it's easy to be for the human rights of people we like, but the true test of our commitment to that principle is whether we recognize the same right in people whom we detest."

Deserves a bump.
74 posted on 03/06/2003 11:17:20 PM PST by ellery
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To: Normal4me
I agree with you.

However the article didn't say WHO killed the prisoners.

75 posted on 03/07/2003 2:08:06 AM PST by DAnconia55
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To: blam
This is just shocking. What are you having for dinner tonight?
76 posted on 03/07/2003 2:29:43 AM PST by Movemout
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To: ErnBatavia
Gets my blood boiling every time I see one of those pics.
I feel so much pain inside thinking about how horrible a decision that must have been for so many. :(
77 posted on 03/07/2003 3:07:19 AM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: Normal4me
...regarding the Geneva Convention standards that the USA swore to uphold and will reflect badly upon us.

They are not signatories of the Geneva Convention. Period. They are inhuman terrorists, not members of mankind. Whatever they get is OK with me. BTW, I loved our "helicopter interviews" during the VietNam conflict.

78 posted on 03/07/2003 4:06:56 AM PST by zip (I love being right)
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To: EaglesUpForever
Are the Al Queda signatories to the Geneva Convention?

Excellent question, one I am asking myself.

Is there one (intelligent) person out there that doesn't realize every army, including ours, have used intensive questioning methods in every war? This isn't a game like these leftists pukes think.

79 posted on 03/07/2003 4:16:31 AM PST by zip (I love being right)
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To: blam
I don't knnow if this is true or not. If it is, its totally inexcusable. Torture should NEVER be used under ANY circumstances. Its a violation of the Constitution and eveything America stands for.

Threaten to shoot the b@stards if they don't talk, then do it. But torture - never. It demeans us and history will condemn us for hypocrasy for our condemnation of people like Saddam and the Islmaic states who use this practise as they have no concept of human dignity.
80 posted on 03/07/2003 4:21:35 AM PST by ZULU (You)
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