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IDF says Gaza casualties caused by Palestinian bomb blast, not tank fire (UPDATE)
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 6 March 2003 | MARGOT DUDKEVITCH

Posted on 03/06/2003 11:43:03 AM PST by anotherview

Mar. 6, 2003
IDF says Gaza casualties caused by Palestinian bomb blast, not tank fire (UPDATE)
By MARGOT DUDKEVITCH

Eleven Palestinians were killed and over 100 wounded during an IDF incursion into the Jebaliya refugee camp in the north Gaza Strip aimed at destroying the Hamas infrastructure, seeking out weapons and arresting fugitives.

The operation is part of ongoing plans to destroy the Hamas infrastructure officials said. Two IDF soldiers were lightly wounded in the operation.

The IDF flatly rejected Palestinian claims that eight of the dead were civilians who were killed when an IDF tank fired a shell at a local store. IDF officials claimed that a powerful bomb placed in the store by Palestinians exploded; the force of the blast ripped a door of its hinges, which rammed into an APC.

At a press briefing with military reporters, Gaza Divsion Commander Brig.Gen. Gadi Shamni declared "the incident concerning the store had nothing to do with us. It is a miracle that none of our soldiers were hurt.

The fact that Palestinians hold civilians hostage and place a powerful bomb inside a store with two floors over it that contain residential apartments shows who we are dealing with," he said.

Shamni also stressed the strict firing regulations upheld by all the forces and noted that throughout the operation all the incidents where troops had to shoot were monitored from vantage positions and cranes and filmed from a drone that flew overhead.

Only two tank shells were fired during the operation, the first one was fired at an armed terrorist who positioned himself in the second floor of an empty building and threw bombs and shot at troops.

The floor was completely open without any walls and was therefore easy to focus on him and hit him. The second tank shell was fired at a terrorist armed with a grenade launcher who positioned himself at a corner of a house and was preparing to shoot at one of the tanks.

Also in that instance the soldiers identified a clear hit and no other civilians were wounded.

Shamni stressed that he had no knowledge of the Palestinian media reports that claim many civilians were wounded. "Unfortunately the Israeli media also reports of the many Israeli civilians who were wounded, on a day where we bury 15 souls murdered in the Haifa bomb attack." The army noted that throughout the operation Palestinian ambulances were able to move freely in the area.

PA officials described the eight-hour IDF operation in the camp as a massacre. PA official Saeb Erekat declared that the army's actions were in revenge for the suicide bomb attack in Haifa.

"This operation shows how pressured Mofaz and Sharon are feeling, but the massacre will cost the people of Israel dearly," he said in an interview on CNN. Many of the dead and wounded were hit by IDF tank shells as they attempted to extinguish a fire that broke out in a store and others attempted to retrieve furniture Palestinian reports claimed.

"The Israelis have slaughtered 77 people in February alone, over 250 Palestinian civilians have been killed in the past three months, and the world does nothing," said Ibrahim Suliman a Hamas leader in Hebron. Ismail Abu Shnab, a Hamas leader in Gaza warned that "Israel will pay dearly," and that Sharon and Mofaz will be to blame.

Two of the wounded were Reuters photographers, one of them Ahmed Jadallah who lost a leg an eye was later transferred to hospital in Israel for treatment that was coordinated by the Israeli district liaison office in the Gaza Strip.

Shortly after midnight IDF forces accompanied by armored and engineering units with combat helicopter support entered the camp. The soldiers arrested senior Hamas fugitive Abed Al Karim Zaide and demolished his home after finding Kalashnikov rifles, grenades, two twenty kilogram bombs, large amounts of explosives, two anti tank rocket launchers, five anti tank rockets and shell launchers.

Officials said that throughout the operation IDF forces came under massive gunfire, and Palestinians fired anti tank rockets at the troops and threw over ten bombs in addition to the gunshots.

The troops who planned to leave before daylight were delayed when one of the tanks got stuck in a narrow alleyway and extra troops were deployed as well as a bulldozer to push the tank out. Shamni stressed that he had no knowledge of the Palestinian media reports that claim many civilians were wounded.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: incursion; intifada; israel; jebaliya; palestinians; refugeecamp; terrorism; terrorists

1 posted on 03/06/2003 11:43:04 AM PST by anotherview
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To: anotherview
This is old stuff. Too bad that the ex-Israeli tankers and the X-rays show this is a lie.
2 posted on 03/06/2003 11:49:12 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
This is old stuff. Too bad that the ex-Israeli tankers and the X-rays show this is a lie.

If you have time could you expand on this statement? What are the references to ex-Israeli tankers and to X-rays?

3 posted on 03/06/2003 11:52:25 AM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts: Proofs establish links)
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To: RightWhale
Illbay's having a baby over this one. He thinks the tank opened up on the crowd of innocent women and children building a Habitat house for a crippled kid.
4 posted on 03/06/2003 11:55:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Illbay
How so?
5 posted on 03/06/2003 12:01:33 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: AppyPappy
He thinks the tank opened up on the crowd of innocent women and children

When I heard that report on the radio news this morning I thought that was most uncharacteristic of the IDF. They have been very careful to avoid collateral damage, even if some don't think so.

6 posted on 03/06/2003 12:07:40 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts: Proofs establish links)
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To: Illbay
Actually, no, this is the latest from Israel. The only one who seems to think it's a lie is you.

You haven't called me a bigot and a liar again yet. You're losing your delicate touch.

7 posted on 03/06/2003 12:12:54 PM PST by anotherview
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To: anotherview
This is the truth. I wish the rest of the networks on TV and press will show this.
8 posted on 03/06/2003 12:29:33 PM PST by yonif
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To: RightWhale
When I heard that report on the radio news this morning I thought that was most uncharacteristic of the IDF. They have been very careful to avoid collateral damage, even if some don't think so.

Exactly. I wonder if that Radio station corrected its words.

9 posted on 03/06/2003 12:30:39 PM PST by yonif
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To: Illbay
This is old stuff. Too bad that the ex-Israeli tankers and the X-rays show this is a lie.

What are you talking about? The only people targeting civilians are the terrorists themselves. They do not care about their "brothers."

10 posted on 03/06/2003 12:31:40 PM PST by yonif
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To: SJackson
Ping.
11 posted on 03/06/2003 12:32:03 PM PST by yonif
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To: Illbay
This is old stuff. Too bad that the ex-Israeli tankers and the X-rays show this is a lie.

Can't be that of, it just happened Tuesday. Do you know someone discharged yesterday?

12 posted on 03/06/2003 12:40:54 PM PST by SJackson
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To: yonif
World Net Daily has been running a series of pieces about Palestinian propaganda, including one today discussing the results of an investigation into the (in)famous film of a father and son trapped during a firefight, and the son was supposedly killed by Israeli fire. The investigation shows it could not have been the Israeli's, because of the angle of the shots, the barrier between them, etc. There's even doubt that the boy is dead. Better yet was a funeral procession in PA-controlled land in which the "deceased" fell of the stretcher his "remains" were being carried to rest on, not once but twice, and he hopped back up both times!!!
13 posted on 03/06/2003 12:47:07 PM PST by HenryLeeII
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To: yonif
I know, and I feel the same way. I'd bet IBA News (English), Mabat, or Sheva ve'Hatzi will have film tonight showing what happened which will never be picked up by the European or American media.
14 posted on 03/06/2003 12:59:09 PM PST by anotherview
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To: anotherview
I know, and I feel the same way. I'd bet IBA News (English), Mabat, or Sheva ve'Hatzi will have film tonight showing what happened which will never be picked up by the European or American media.

The CBS Evening News tonight claimed it was a tank shell that killed the civilians. There was no mention whatsoever by CBS that the Israeli's had a different version of the incident. Do you ever get the feeling that a major propaganda war is being waged against the Judeo-Christian culture of this world?

15 posted on 03/06/2003 4:21:39 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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