War With Iraq: Pushing For A New World Order?

Toogood Reports ^ | March 6, 2003 | Lee R. Shelton IV

[Ff--150]

I have wondered if PART of the rush to Iraq might be that Jr knows WWIII is scheduled with Russia & China to attack etc.

I agree, and don't think that is a stretch, except not Russia--yet. China without a doubt, using N. Korea to attack, if you will. That little, rich island off China's coast their objective.

I believe Saddam will go down without a war (I hope!)

[Quix]

That would be great. . . no Saddam wout a war.

Prayer can change a lot of things.

[Ff--150]

That would be great. . . no Saddam wout a war.

Lol, nothing like going out on limb...in reality, things might just work out. Maybe, we will finally get out of UN, and UN out of us soon.

[Quix]

I think the AntiChrist will be in and removed from power and Christ returned and reigning from Jerusalem before the UN will be out of the US and the US out of the UN--unless the rise of the AC's power base in Europe manages it somehow.

[Ff--150]

You might be right about UN and the USA. I'm hoping the two wings of a great eagle given the woman (Israel) in Rev. 12:14 are the United States.

Back to your original post, your concerns about the President, and our last president and her husband back into power are grave concerns...

[KC_for_Freedom]

This article never mentions 9/11. If that terrorist attack never happened, then this whole circus with Iraq would've never taken place. But 9/11 did happen. It was a signal that we could not afford to wait. As long as Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria exsit as they are now, radical Islam will always have a haven. However, each country is going to require a different approach to get the same end.

Thank you, this cannot be repeated enough, this president has a plan and is implementing it. If anyone disagrees, you have a ballot every four years.

[Quix]

Yeah.

The UN power grab on Dilldo's part with her rush back to the Whitehouse is enough to cause a leopard to lose it's spots from sheer fright.

Glad God's in control. But what if He decides we deserve them--again!?!!!

They'd grease the skids for the AC's entry if they had to lick the path personally.

[EarlyBird]

In other words, those countries that cooperate with us bilaterally will be rewarded. Those who don't must suffer the consequences.

Explain that, if you will.

I think the defining pronouncement of Bush's approach to the WOT is his "either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists" statement. This is a bilateral approach -- at some point each country will have to declare where it stands with the US.

But this declaration might have been issued a bit prematurely. It did not take into account the US's multilateral ties at the UN, and in the midst of the current UN "fan dance", many have forgotten that Bush has said this.

Once Bush has definitively proven that the UN is inept in the WOT, the diplomatic emphasis will return to Bush's bilateral approach -- countries will cooperate or they won't. But in obtaining its goals in the WOT, the US will have limited inducements for cooperation. We can't afford to just give every country $20 billion up front and hope they play nicely when we need them later.

So we have to use the inducements selectively. However, in every situation, we will also make sure to have different options to reach each goal. If one country does not cooperate in achieving a particular goal, we will remove the inducement from them and offer it to another country that can and will help us.

Turkey may be a good example. They will not receive the $20 billion in aid because they voted against us. Therefore we have to go to Plan B, which seems to be staging from Saudi Arabia and Jordan. I suspect that some of Turkey's $20 billion in aid is now going to SA and Jordan in return for their cooperation, which is very difficult domestically for them.

In this way, Bush will create a new "new world order". On the basis of these bilateral relationships, new regional multilateral agreements might emerge, but the US will never again depend on the UN's muddled multilateralism. Finally, the countries that cooperate will benefit and their stature on the world stage will increase, while those who resist us may suffer financially as well as see their global influence decline.

[B4Ranch]

I apologize for the fact that people beeing duped into a war that is (IMO)not necessary makes me angry.

We all are "angry" about one thing or another, however that doesn't cause us to toss our respect and manners out the window. I suggest you apologize, calm down and then continue to express your thoughts in a polite manner. If you consider someone too stupid, is ignorant or just an idiot, DO NOT REPOND to that one persons postings. This will help in keeping the smile that should be on your face for those in your immediate presence.

[FreeTally]

I can not even comprehend anyone supporting bribing other counties with tax payer's money.

Thanks for the expnanation, though.

[EarlyBird]

You're kidding, right?

[FreeTally]

FT: "I can not even comprehend anyone supporting bribing other countries with tax payer's money."

You're kidding, right?

Uh, not in the least bit.

[FreeTally]

Actually, let me retract that partially. I can comprehend that there are people who live off tax payer's money who would support bribing other countries with money that is not theirs, especially if it benefits them.

[EarlyBird]

Let me put this as diplomatically as possible: You are an idiot.

EarlyBird Out.

[FreeTally]

Im an idiot because I think bribing other countries with money that is not yours, is wrong? Ok.

[underdog]

I hope that I am wrong....I am praying for your country especially those still caught in the phoney left/right paradigm.

As stated somewhere in this thread...."follow the money".

Perhaps an article on the "money trail" might be in order.

[EarlyBird]

I apologize for my intemperate frustration at your remarks. For a hopefully better explanation of my views on this, please see the following post, and tell me your thoughts there:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/859883/posts

Thanks