Making top al Qaeda terrorist Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (KSM), sing

Washington Times ^ | 3.5.2003 | Jack Wheeler

[CHICAGOFARMER]

With the capture of top al Qaeda terrorist Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (known as "KSM"), getting him to disgorge the contents of his brain quickly and truthfully is critically necessary before his network has a chance to vanish undercover.

What, then, would the most efficient and effective form of interrogation be? In 1995, the Philippine State Police captured an al Qaeda agent. They knew he was planning some terrorist act, but didn't know what. So they tortured him

[CHICAGOFARMER]

What does the Free Republic think of this method of making terrorist talk??

[eureka!]

Sure is creative...

[AppyPappy]

After all useful information has been extracted from his brain, KSM should be informed that he will now be killed after his body is smeared with pig fat, that his dead body will be handled by women, and all other actions taken that prevent a Muslim from entering heaven upon death so that he dies believing he will never get the heavenly wine and virgins, but will burn in Hell instead. Upon his execution, there should be no physical remains. The body should be cremated and the ashes scattered to the winds.

What's the point of that? Give him a job working with pigs and release the videos.

[LADY J]

Sometimes you 'gotta do what you gotta do!'

[Wright is right!]

Creative AND EFFECTIVE, it would appear.

Michael

[connectthedots]

I am totally opposed to any punishment or execution without a fair trial. Other than that, the rest is very interesting.

[RobRoy]

If it works, go for it. It's interesting though - Christians are taught that men can only take away your physical life and are unable to impact the afterlife at all.

Muslims actually believe that enemies can do things to your dead physical body that will impact the afterlife. I think this is their achilles heel, if we choose to exploit it.

[fooman]

I have long advocated variants of this , even before this article.

WE would also use regualar poly gear to further calibrate this.

In fact, this guy is an engineer, so I would advocate we teach him just how we can see when he is lying.

There is also technology that catches neurons firing in your brain 250ms after you see a picture or other evidence that you recognize.

We could calibrate this forensic methods by starting with the evidence captured with KSM and with pictures of Bin Al shib and Bin LAden.

Note that this is MORE HUMANE that sleep deprivation and akward positions etc.

By showing him that resistance is futile , he may cooperate.

We can also hold the carrot of educating his kids in a moslem school if he cooperates.

[Paradox]

What's the point of that? Give him a job working with pigs and release the videos.

Better yet, have him anally raped by some dirty, sloppy, male pig. Video tape this. Make sure you get visual evidence of his violation and of the pig's "deposit" within his body cavity(s). Distribute this tape.

Hey, I got it, have Ron Jeremy produce this thing, he can always be used as a double...

[Jakenuts]

A little troubled by Jack's knowledge of the instruments of interrogation here, not exactly a comforting hobby. I would say that the suffocation thing prolly won't fly as it seems quite possible to either lose the subject or his brain cells in the process. Something Chinese and repetitive might be more safe, perhaps a Yoko Ono/Phillip Glass collaboration.

[AppyPappy]

A pig wearing a yalmuke.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

What is the point?

The point is to dis-credit this "image of power" in the minds of all his followers.

Want to stop sucide bombers who want to tank advange of Saddam payment of money to parents of sucide bombers.

Take the parents out. New or future bombers will think twice before they push the bottom. Then good people stop the blessing (money) to the families of sucide bombers the message will be sent. If you push the bomb button your family will suffer.

[AppyPappy]

perhaps a Yoko Ono/Phillip Glass collaboration

GASP!! Have you no mercy?

[CHICAGOFARMER]

This is not punishment.

this is making someone give up information to save thousands of lives, perhaps yours??

Regarding the final journey of life. When you are are a warrior who kills innocent people, God has a place in for them. As Rummy says we are just going to help them get there quicker!!

[eureka!]

Re#5 Would seem so. I do find the articles on the art of interrogation to be fascinating. The consensus seems to be that physical pain is less effective than psychological methods with some discomfort. In any event, the playboy planner is probably dying for some sleep and relief and I would think that the best of the best questioners are getting good stuff by now. What a score he was...

[MattinNJ]

Mess with the bull, you get the horns, reap what you sow, etc...

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Yes to change the minds of terrorists you either kill them or your make them think of their families and the live their act will bring too the family after they are gone.

Only two ways to stop terrorists, kill them, or strike fear in their minds. Since the second works only if your can impact thier gene pool after they are worm food.

[Core_Conservative]

Glad you're on our side - man would that be nasty. I'm still of the old world with sleep deprivation and maybe baboo shoots in strategic locations!

[CHICAGOFARMER]

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[CaptainJustice]

Wow... i think thats the best quasi-torture method I've ever heard of. Just thinking about it makes me wish I had something to confess, just so I never had to go thru it.