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To: unspun
In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.

The basis for this thought was excellent but sadly in the last 200 years the vision of the founding fathers has been corrupted to the point that the governments control of the governed is becoming dictatorial. The very meaning of Freedom has been warped to the point that it is now limited to however the latest regime in Washington defines it.

Obviously you are more comfortable in an environment where your life and libertys are dictated to you by the federal government. You are willing to give up your own freedom in return for making certain that others have to surrender their freedom. Misery loves company.

I'm not willing to to surrender my freedom for any reason and I have no desire to tell you how to live your life. I also will not accept you or anyone else telling me how to live mine.

Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort. -- Lazarus Long

Include me as one of the latter.

78 posted on 03/05/2003 10:12:42 PM PST by FreeLibertarian (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite - Lazarus Long)
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To: FreeLibertarian
My mind is made up about Libertarianism just as it is about Fascism, Communism, Islamism and other idealist, unsupportable, ideologically totalitarian governments. Libertarians want to take our republic and turn it into a virtual tribunal, to ban every governmental action that does not leave the most possible liberty and moral license conceivable under the Constitution. It is as if there is no responsibility to govern in order to "provide for the general welfare," as well as to secure our liberties. It is not Americanism. Libertarianism is anarchy in mock constitutional clothing.
79 posted on 03/05/2003 10:18:45 PM PST by unspun (I'm really ticked off, tonight. But I love you all, I'm sure.)
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