Immolation by immigration

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, March 5, 2003 | Ilana Mercer

[JohnHuang2]

Wednesday, March 5, 2003

Quote of the Day by amused

[boris]

"Implied in Clinton's jubilation, and in that of "the permanent government of bureaucrats, mediacrats, educrats, assorted policy wonks and intellectuals," is the following: 1) The American European historical majority was a bad thing; it needed to be cut back through state intervention and centralized oversight. 2) Immigration to the U.S is a universal right."

Forgot (3) The illegals are voting, and they ain't voting (R); (4) They create an automatic and rapidly growing clientelle for the various organs of the bureaucratic nanny state...thus an excuse for bigger budgets, staff, facilities, and (yum) lots and lots of taxing and spending.

[sarcasm]

Boris, Boris, you forgetting the wonderful diversity that they bring.

[FITZ]

used this appointment to make political hay.

That's the part that bothers me ---but we don't know Aguirre's views on the issue ---I don't assume that he's pro-illegal immigration or pro-massive immigration just becaues he's an immigrant. I know immigrants who think immigration should be controlled.

[Free the USA]

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list

[madfly]

fyi

[dirtboy]

By focusing exclusively on the illegal immigration no-brainer, however, most media scribes and immigration watchdogs – with the exception of the hard-core Brimelow, Paul Craig Roberts and Steve Sailer – are providing a useful diversion from the crux of the immigration problem. And playing into the hands of an administration that wants us to forget that the real catastrophe is legal immigration.

Oh, horsehockey. We've heard these bleats from the nativists of various stripes since this country was founded. The English thought the Germans would ruin the country. The Protestants thought the Catholics would ruin the country. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

I agree we need to figure out a level of immigration this country can assimilate. And that we should not favor one group or region over another, but allow people into this country on merit. But who do you want coming here - some socialist welfare addled European, or an Asian or South American entreprenuer? Last I checked, Europe was a socialist mess - isn't it better to get people who think more like the Founders did than those who just look like the Founders did?

[junta]

No wave of immigration that this country has endured has been without problems and as noted by the latest group of "Nativists" the problems are worse than before.

[skeeter]

The historical majority never got to debate these empty assumptions.

Since the boosters, in industry & in politics, of unrestricted immigration feel they have the moral high ground, they should have no problem subjecting the current policy to a nationwide debate culminating in a vote.

Put the damn issue on the ballot with the results being binding.

What do you suppose is the likelyhood of them agreeing to this?

[dirtboy]

Since the boosters, in industry & in politics, of unrestricted immigration feel they have the moral high ground, they should have no problem subjecting the current policy to a nationwide debate culminating in a vote. Put the damn issue on the ballot with the results being binding.

Uh, this is a republic, not a democracy. You don't like the policy, work to get representatives who will vote your viewpoint.

[skeeter]

Uh, this is a republic, not a democracy. You don't like the policy, work to get representatives who will vote your viewpoint.

Right. But you get my drift.

There hasn't been a nation wide, open debate, has there?

[dirtboy]

Right. But you get my drift. There hasn't been a nation wide, open debate, has there?

It's a free country. Get on a stump and start one.

[skeeter]

It's a free country. Get on a stump and start one.

Thanks for the suggestion, but the demogogues have made certain open debate on this topic is all but impossible.

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

That's the part that bothers me ---but we don't know Aguirre's views on the issue ---I don't assume that he's pro-illegal immigration or pro-massive immigration just becaues he's an immigrant. I know immigrants who think immigration should be controlled

Well you can bet that his policy reflects Bush's pretty closly.... and I hate to say, that would be OPEN borders, no real regulation!

[PuNcH]

- some socialist welfare addled European, or an Asian or South American entreprenuer?

Yah thats whats going on, all the europeans that would come here are all socialists. Meanwhile all those asian and south american countries are all wonderful free places to live.

Those wonderful entreprenuers you imagine tend to vote democrat by the way and also they tend to not actually be entreprenuers.

[Dante3]

BUMP

[FITZ]

But who do you want coming here - some socialist welfare addled European, or an Asian or South American entreprenuer?

Entreprenuers but even that should depend on the kinds of jobs and how many they'll likely offer. It doesn't do much good when entreprenuers only hire their own family members like certain ones do ---you can see why the blacks sometimes had problems with Korean stores which wouldn't hire any blacks but only Koreans but were located in black neighborhoods.

[1rudeboy]

Those wonderful entreprenuers you imagine tend to vote democrat by the way and also they tend to not actually be entreprenuers.

Those charges get thrown around a lot, and usually by folks who deliberately confuse legal with illegal immigration.

[FITZ]

I'd still like to see Aguirre's views before I would decide --- he could be for regulation and decreased immigration. From what I've seen, it's actually immigrants who are tougher on these issues most of the time.

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

I do hope you are right about him... and if so then I will gladely "eat a little crow".

BTW, I didn't mean to sound so hard on our dear GW either. I think he knows he needs to protect the borders but wants even more to be re-elected and mistakenly (perhaps) believes that buying the Latino's votes will help insure that re-election..... I guess the awful power struggle up there at the top does that to one whether he is Dem or Repub.