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'Don't go too far' South Korea leader tells Bush
The Times ^ | March 5, 2003 | Robert Thomson and Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 03/04/2003 3:29:12 PM PST by MadIvan


President Roh at his inauguration ceremony

In his first interview as President, Roh Moo Hyun says that Blair has a role in the Korean conflict

TONY BLAIR could play a vital role in the stand-off between North Korea and the United States, the new President of South Korea told The Times yesterday.

Tensions rose on the Korean Peninsula after it was revealed that North Korean fighter jets threatened to attack a US naval spyplane. But President Roh said that the high-altitude encounter was predictable, because the United States had increased its aerial surveillance of North Korea’s reopened nuclear facilities.

“It was a very predictable chain of events,” he said in his presidential palace, the Blue House. “A very strong threat against a counterpart can be a very effective means of negotiation,” he said, of the increased US surveillance. “I am urging the US not to go too far.”

Let's get this straight, the North Koreans invade your airspace, Mr. Roh, and you are worried about the Americans going too far? Been eating too much fermented kimchi or what? - Ivan

The United States is preparing to lodge an official protest with North Korea over the harassment.

In an outspoken interview, which highlights the gaping differences between Seoul and Washington, the South Korean President insisted that the dispute over North Korea’s suspected nuclear weapons programme will be resolved only if America and North Korea engage in direct talks — something that President Bush has ruled out. He also said that Tony Blair would make a suitable intermediary to begin the process of negotiating an end to the present deadlock.

“Ultimately, this problem has to be resolved by President Bush and Chairman Kim Jong Il, and they have to be moved to solve the problem,” he said. “In this regard I believe Prime Minister Blair’s role is very important.”

Mr Roh made clear that building a personal relationship with Kim Jong Il would be a priority. He said that he supported the establishment of a hotline with the North Korean leader to avoid the misunderstandings that have dogged relations between the two countries for half a century.

President Roh’s Government agrees with the Bush Administration that North Korea must abandon its suspected nuclear weapons programmes, but the two leaders differ on the best means of reaching such a goal.

The Americans insist that it can be achieved only in a multilateral forum, and in the past few weeks several proposals have been floated and rejected by North Korea. But, since his election last December and his formal inauguration eight days ago, President Roh has called for a policy of openness and engagement. His comments to The Times show that the gap between the two is as wide as ever.

“When I meet President Bush I will convince him by saying that although North Korea does not meet the values of the US and may not be likeable from their stand-point, there is a possibility to improve the relationship,” said Mr Roh. He is expected to visit Washington in the next three months. “I’d like to highlight the benefits of a dialogue with North Korea. When we look at history, the greater a leader is, the more effort he makes to create dialogue.”

President Roh was at pains to point out that it was up to Kim Jong Il to abandon his nuclear programme. But US officials are exasperated by his eagerness to engage a Government that devotes resources to its million-strong army, but where as many as three million people have died of starvation.

His failure to condemn unequivocally North Korea’s interception of the spyplane will only add to the edginess between Seoul and Washington. A senior Western official said: “There are a lot of people in the US who find South Korean nonchalance off-putting. To tolerate that kind of human rights violation without wanting to change it — to tolerate all the heavy artillery pointing at Seoul.”

But all sides agree on the gravity of the spyplane incident, which occurred on Sunday but was announced by the United States on late on Monday. Four North Korean fighter jets — two MiG29s and two MiG23s — surrounded and followed the US Boeing RC135S, a converted Boeing 707 passenger jet known as the Cobra Ball, which was forced to return to its base in Japan.

The RC135S is based at Kadena Air Force Base, in Okinawa in Japan. Such aircraft routinely fly missions close to the North Korean coast monitoring communications, radar emissions and the deployment of forces.

The MiGs “locked on” their attack radar and flew within 50ft of the unarmed aircraft, in a high-risk manoeuvre similar to the one in 2001 when a Chinese fighter downed a US Navy Orion spyplane over Hainan Island in the South China Sea. The incident took place 150 miles from North Korea in international air space over the Sea of Japan.

US officials said that they would make a formal protest.

Washington: The United States ordered military reinforcements to within striking distance of North Korea yesterday in response to the spy plane incident (Roland Watson writes). The Pentagon said the move was non-aggressive.

"Deploying these forces is a prudent measure to bolster our defensive posture as a deterrent," a spokesman said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; kimjongil; northkorea; roh; southkorea; uk; us
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Sounds like hippies are in charge of the South Korean government. People who have had one too many hits of the bong, anyway.

As for asking the Prime Minister to intervene: he has Iraq, Northern Ireland, education and the budget to deal with. He's already getting gray hairs - I sincerely doubt he wants to get anymore from dealing with the North Korea situation. Ring up John Howard of Australia, a sound fellow, who will suggest flattening every last damn nuclear production facility the North has.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 03/04/2003 3:29:12 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Semper911; Bubbette; Kip Lange; dixiechick2000; UofORepublican; kayak; LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR; ..
Bump!
2 posted on 03/04/2003 3:29:34 PM PST by MadIvan (Learn the power of the Dark Side, www.thedarkside.net)
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To: MadIvan
I got it. We've tried the US mediating a dispute between South Korea and North Korea. That did not work. Then we tried South Korea mediating a dispute between North Korea and the US. That did not work. Now Roh says we need Blair to mediate a dispute between South Korea and the US.

This guy must be living too close to the North Korean nuclear reactor. I'd say it's time to bring our troops home.
3 posted on 03/04/2003 3:33:10 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: MadIvan
If he doesn't go far enough, Mr Roh and the rest of the South will be starving, just like most of the ROK is.
4 posted on 03/04/2003 3:33:43 PM PST by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic!)
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To: MadIvan
I know a lot of Americans may not be familiar with Mr. President Roh yet; after all, he has been in power only a week.

For them, this short idea: "Think EAST ASIAN BILL CLINTON"

5 posted on 03/04/2003 3:38:49 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Easy to UNDERRATE N.Korea: Idiotic leader, starving people. BUT DON'T! They could attack in a flash.)
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To: Brilliant
Are you forgetting about China? Maybe we should just pull ALL of our troops back to within our borders and seal them off.. that sure as hell would make America a better place wouldn't it? Don't tell me your one of those guys that grew up not reading your history books.......
6 posted on 03/04/2003 3:39:56 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: MadIvan
Sounds like decades of North Korean sponsored "peace" propaganda, right out of the Soviet play book, has infiltrated the SK school system and culture via useful idiots, creating a new, compliant culture of Elois.

Now all the North has to do is get us out, create a phoney pretext, and roll in.

7 posted on 03/04/2003 3:42:09 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Almondjoy
Do you really think that 35,000 American troops could stop China and N. Korea from invading S. Korea? If there is a military confrontation, it will quickly go nuclear. Why we would want our troops in harm's way, I don't know.
8 posted on 03/04/2003 3:45:24 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: MadIvan
Roh Moo Hyun sounds like he's been turned.

A South Korean Manchurian President.

9 posted on 03/04/2003 3:46:24 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Brilliant
This guy must be living too close to the North Korean nuclear reactor. I'd say it's time to bring our troops home.

Yep. This is a problem for South Korea, China and Japan.
Japan has said it would act preemptively if it felt threatened.
That is North Korea's big danger, they just don't realize it yet.

In the meantime, we need a KC10 dragging 4 F15s along just over the horizon behind our recon planes.

10 posted on 03/04/2003 3:46:40 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Shermy
He speaks Korean. Don't you think his simple, declarative "Don't Go Too Far" comments should more correctly be directed to Kim Jong il? They are in the same time zone, and they can raise a land line or cell phone connection between the two for Roh to pass this on. Sheesh.
11 posted on 03/04/2003 3:46:46 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Easy to UNDERRATE N.Korea: Idiotic leader, starving people. BUT DON'T! They could attack in a flash.)
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To: MadIvan
I think we should go really far... and pull all our boys out of South Korea.

With in a year there would be a new single Korea!!


12 posted on 03/04/2003 3:47:35 PM PST by Kay Soze (F France and Germany- They are our enemies.)
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To: MadIvan
Been eating too much fermented kimchi or what? – Ivan

Mmmm… kimchi. I love it. Good with bulgogi and those fried fish they make. Mmmm. It’s also good with fried chicken and barbeque ribs, believe it or not. But I know how to make it, so we don’t need the Koreans anymore.

Bombs away.

13 posted on 03/04/2003 3:48:47 PM PST by Who dat?
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To: Jeff Head
A South Korean Manchurian President.

Roh: "Kim Jong-Il is the bravest, kindest human being I've ever met"?

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 03/04/2003 3:49:06 PM PST by MadIvan (Learn the power of the Dark Side, www.thedarkside.net)
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To: MadIvan
Wow, sounds to me like Roh has a little Too much confidence in his Northern neighbor Kim. It sounds like they are speaking along the same line of thought....
15 posted on 03/04/2003 3:51:58 PM PST by Blue Scourge (If the Son has set you free, than you are Free indeed...)
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To: MadIvan
That's very quaint, SKorea putting itself out, cool-headedly mediating in this spat between two power-mad nations.

Let's not completely abandon our history of American generosity, here, OK?

It obvious SK's interests would be best served by a general US withdrawl from the Korean Penninsula. Not a minute too soon, either, as our troops are badly needed elsewhere....

16 posted on 03/04/2003 3:52:00 PM PST by gaijin
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To: MadIvan
US Bombers Sent to Guam Following Spy Plane Incident with North Korea.
17 posted on 03/04/2003 3:52:12 PM PST by aristeides
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Add Stockholm Syndrome to my analysis.
18 posted on 03/04/2003 3:54:02 PM PST by Shermy
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To: MadIvan
Is that an actual quote?

Unbelievable.

If he said that, he's been turned and doesn't care who knows it ... and apparently, neither do the voting S. Korean public.

If the North takes the South without a shot ... then, IMHO, China's ambitions are going to escalate further and faster than can be predicted.

19 posted on 03/04/2003 3:54:08 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
No, I'm quoting from "The Manchurian Candidate". Suggesting what Roh might say if he's been turned to that extent.

Regards, Ivan

20 posted on 03/04/2003 3:56:15 PM PST by MadIvan (Learn the power of the Dark Side, www.thedarkside.net)
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