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California: State close to giving up on electric-car requirements
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 4 March 2003 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 03/04/2003 12:15:19 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The rotary dial telephone. The black-and-white TV. The eight-track tape player.

California is on the verge of adding a new item to the list of yesterday's technologies: the electric car.

In a historic shift, state officials spent Monday putting the finishing touches on a new plan to end a longstanding requirement that forces automobile companies to build and sell specific numbers of electric cars in California.


(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: airresourcesboard; california; calpowercrisis; carb; electriccars; hybrids; vroomvroom; zeroemission

1 posted on 03/04/2003 12:15:19 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Finally, CA grew some brains.
2 posted on 03/04/2003 12:19:05 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I would be in favor of mandating electric cars in California, as long as we started with municipalities, Hollywierdos and environmentalists.

If it worked well for them, only then should we consider expaning the program.
3 posted on 03/04/2003 12:22:12 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Finally, CA grew some brains

Actually they have been unable to repeal physics. Little things like gravity and friction have conspired to derail their little wagon.

4 posted on 03/04/2003 12:27:06 PM PST by Voltage
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To: CounterCounterCulture; *calpowercrisis; randita; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; okie01; socal_parrot; ...
I think they just realized there wasn't going to be any juice to plug into!

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5 posted on 03/04/2003 12:28:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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Meanwhile... Excerpt from: State moves to preserve tough rules on pollution (LOCKYER SUES EPA OVER RELAXING OF CLEAN AIR ACT)

Lock(step)yer may have to sue CARB next...hee-hee...

6 posted on 03/04/2003 12:33:08 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Something to do with reality?
7 posted on 03/04/2003 12:34:07 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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From The Simpsons (Special Edna)
8 posted on 03/04/2003 12:37:18 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The air board made national news in 1990 when it required that 10 percent of new vehicles sold in California by 2003 -- roughly 100,000 cars -- be ``zero-emission'' or electric.

Utopian legislation. It's like the legislation they passed last year requiring that 20% of California's power come from renewables. They might as well have made it 100%.

9 posted on 03/04/2003 12:40:56 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Voltage
BUMP
10 posted on 03/04/2003 12:46:18 PM PST by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
electric zero emission cars don't exist because the power generation in the State of Cali is generated by mostly natural gas.

All they were doing was shifting the pollution to a different area.
11 posted on 03/04/2003 12:51:01 PM PST by dila813
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To: CounterCounterCulture
About time!!

The biggest issue with true electric cars is the fact you're only limited to 60-80 mile range on a single charge. Not very useful for almost every California driver. The successful development of gasoline-electric hybrids from Toyota and Honda has shown you can get a very fuel-efficient car that is very low-polluting indeed--and the Prius has the range to (in theory) drive from San Francisco to San Diego on a single 11.9 US gallon fillup!

12 posted on 03/04/2003 1:32:42 PM PST by RayChuang88
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`California tried to force us to build something that wasn't market ready, and it looks like they have finally realized that fact,'' said Greg Dana, vice president of environmental affairs for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, in Washington, D.C. `

Don't you just love how market forces, economics, and physics prevail over "do-good" Politicians!

Speaking of which, in Rough and Tumble, there are two interesting articles (too busy to post) one in the Sac Bee that says Davis now blames the Cal Power crisis caused by evil power companies as the source of all his and the state's problems and how he is going to get those evil folks. The other is that FERC (in a Wall Street Journla article) has said that it is going to make public the "evidence that California has submitted." That should allow the accused the opportunity to respond and pretty well discredit the California arguments.

This is going to get fun to watch. Also the hydro situation up in the PNW is not getting any better, nor is the Cal ISO doing a better job of managing the power systems. Therefore, I suspect that things could get dicey this summer for California both in terms of price and blackouts.

13 posted on 03/04/2003 2:20:11 PM PST by Robert357
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To: Robert357
It would put kinda a crimp in the socialists plans. So much for their trying to tout California as a model for the rest of the country to follow.
14 posted on 03/04/2003 2:41:43 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Ah, fascism. Don't ya just love it?
15 posted on 03/04/2003 3:02:49 PM PST by jennyp (http://lowcarbshopper.bestmessageboard.com)
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