[Lee'sGhost]

"Fortunately (and unlike you), most Southerners don't identify with the Confederate slaveholdocracy."

OK, I get it. You're one of those who ignores the point and tries to win an argument by redirecting. You are sort of right; LIKE me, most Southerners don't identify with the Confederate slaveholdocracy. As others point out you are applying judgement of Nineteenth Century man through 21st Century eyes. If you can't accept or grasp the concept that people thought differently and understand that things like slavery and (the Northern favored) indentured servitude (or tenured slavery) were measured differently, then there can be no reasonable discussion on this subject. It takes a little thought and empathy.

But I suspect you know that, but in admitting it would have to admit you are wrong headed.

[ravinson]

LIKE me, most Southerners don't identify with the Confederate slaveholdocracy.

Then what is encompassed by your self-identification of a "son of the Old South" who is "proud of [his] Southern heritage"? Does your "Southern heritage" include slavery or not?

As others point out you are applying judgement of Nineteenth Century man through 21st Century eyes.

I've already refuted that by pointing out the millions of 19th Century (even 18th Century) people who actively opposed slavery.