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Freep this CNN poll on Turkey!!!!!!!
CNN ^

Posted on 03/03/2003 6:52:00 AM PST by WilliamWallace1999

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:11 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bigturkeys
It's close now. Let's give it a good Freepin'.
1 posted on 03/03/2003 6:52:00 AM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Here's the link.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/03/sprj.irq.turkey.markets/index.html

2 posted on 03/03/2003 6:53:07 AM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Freeped-- but still needs help! The liberals are out all over it!
3 posted on 03/03/2003 6:55:16 AM PST by BobFromNJ
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Freeped. Keep it up.
4 posted on 03/03/2003 6:57:27 AM PST by JohnMac
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To: WilliamWallace1999
I didn't bother - that is one stupid poll - the question is dumb, and the answers have no meaning. Typical left-wing radical extremism.

Turkey has the right to do what it wants.
The USA has the right to reward for helping us, or withhold aid for not helping.

WE can't say that Turkey was right or wrong. We can only say that Turkey helped or not helped.

The "NO" vote did NOT help us.
5 posted on 03/03/2003 7:00:04 AM PST by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Look, let's save the money, as soon as we attack from the South, there will be a flood of refuges heading north, towards turkey. At that time turkey will be begging us to help them, so, let's wait till they are in such dire straits that they offer to pay us for our help.

Which should be about two minutes after the french and the krauts veto any un or nato plan to help the turks. So, let the war begin!

6 posted on 03/03/2003 7:11:41 AM PST by 2timothy3.16
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Stuff Turkey!
7 posted on 03/03/2003 7:13:55 AM PST by clintonh8r (It is better to be feared than to be respected.)
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Done. I did my freepin' duty.
8 posted on 03/03/2003 7:14:22 AM PST by plain talk
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To: WilliamWallace1999
From the link CNN article ... The main stock market was down about 11 percent by midday while the Turkish lira fell 5 percent to 1,654,000 to the dollar, The Associated Press reported

That exchange rate, along with the Turkish Parliament vote; tells me that Turkey isn't with America in "liverating" Iraq.

If there are no American troops in northern Iraq when fighting starts, Turkey's army will probably go in to secure their own interests.

Oil and Kurds is what interests Turkey.

9 posted on 03/03/2003 7:18:26 AM PST by thinktwice
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To: thinktwice
Turkey and US need to remain allies, some of you guys are way over reacting. should i go vote against you guys? na, not worth the trouble.
10 posted on 03/03/2003 7:20:49 AM PST by libbylu
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To: libbylu
we get our way either way
:-)
11 posted on 03/03/2003 7:24:02 AM PST by hapy
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Was Turkey right to block U.S. troop deployment? Yes 44% 2055 votes No 56% 2641 votes Total: 4696 votes

FReeped. Tough turkey.


12 posted on 03/03/2003 7:40:33 AM PST by SquirrelKing ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers)
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To: WilliamWallace1999
The Kurdish Ghost
By WILLIAM SAFIRE

Mullah Mustafa Barzani was a leader of the 20 million Kurdish people ? the world's largest nation without a country ?
through much of the 20th century. Betrayed in the 1970's by the Shah of Iran and the U.S. ("covert action should not be
confused with missionary work"), the dying warrior was brought to a C.I.A. safe house in Virginia, where we had long
talks before his death.

Because Iraqi Kurds under belated U.S. air protection have developed a democracy that will be a model for
post-Saddam Iraq, my friend Mullah Mustafa granted me this interview from the Great Beyond.

Q: Have Kurds finally come to trust the Americans?

Barzani: We have had a saying for a thousand years: "The Kurds have no friends." America gave us air cover after the
1991 gulf war only when the television pictures of a half-million Kurdish refugees fleeing Saddam's slaughter made you
ashamed. But we are grateful for our only decade of freedom.

Q: Then why are the Kurds worried about the coming liberation of the rest of Iraq?

Barzani: Because we think you made a deal with the Turks to sell us out again. To get them to let you use Turkey as
the base for your northern front, you agreed to their demand not to arm my son Massoud's forces in Iraq. Together with
Jalal Talabani's Kurds, that's 70,000 fighters who could be on your side to defeat Saddam. But you deny us the
weapons to fight our common enemy.

Q: Isn't that denial because the Turks think you want to set up an independent Kurdistan in Iraq, and that 12 million
Kurds in Turkey will want to break away and merge with you?

Barzani: That is the stuff of dreams. After finally getting some home rule and safety in Iraq, do you think we want to fight
the whole Turkish Army? And fight the Americans, too, who have guaranteed the territorial integrity of Iraq after
Saddam? The Turks cry "secession" because they want to crush Kurdish culture in Turkey, not because separation is
a threat. You trust the Turks?

Q. Well, lately they've disappointed us, after we forced NATO to send them defensive equipment and we agreed to
their $15 billion rental demand ? but how can we complain when Turkey sides with France and Germany to protect
Saddam if that's its democratic choice?

Barzani: Don't complain, because you learned just in time that the Turks want to grab the oil fields of Kirkuk, our
ancestral capital in Iraq, on the pretense that we're declaring Kurdish independence. You're lucky their Islamists in
Parliament double-crossed you.

Q: But don't you see how we could shorten the war by a week with a thrust down from Turkey in the north?

Barzani: Of course ? and nearby is the base that my son Massoud and my old aide Jalal offer you in the north of Iraq.
You could put your huge jets down in our airfields with over 5,000 troops and armor in time for your invasion up from
Kuwait while the Brits slip in through Jordan. And we'll be at your side ?

Q: But wouldn't your mountain fighters just get in the way of a motorized assault by a modern army?

Barzani: When you give our pesh merga the guns, mortars, rockets, chemical suits and gas masks they need, they will
not only wipe out Al Qaeda's allies of Ansar al-Islam. Thousands of Kurds who cannot forget Saddam's poison-gas
massacre at Halabja are ready to help root out his Republican Guard in the streets of Baghdad, if need be, to avenge
the murder of our children.

Q: We wouldn't want any "score-settling" ?

Barzani: The allies settled scores at Nuremberg and The Hague. Iraqis will also bring Baathist oppressors to justice.

Q: But is Iraq, with all its religious groups and ethnic factions, capable of unity and self-government?

Barzani: Sooner than some arrogant Westerners think. You'll help us set up our confederation, organize state and
federal elections and courts, repudiate Saddam's corrupt Russian debt, get onstream outside OPEC, block Turkish and
Persian mischief, and say goodbye. Then we'll forgive your betrayals of the past. And when you see Massoud and
Jalal, tell them I ordered Kurds to stick together.

[Now tell me why should the highlighted section, mine, remind me of Yassir's
refusal to accept Barak's offers at Camp David. It seems, to me at least, that
Islamic persistencies and emotional feelings, have saved the day once again
for the western mentality which doesn't seem to comprehend that type of logic.
Feel free to comment.
13 posted on 03/03/2003 7:42:38 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Done but needs help.
14 posted on 03/03/2003 8:15:17 AM PST by schaketo
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To: WilliamWallace1999
If the Turkeys do finally let us in, how do we prevent conflice between the Turkeys and the Kurds? More importantly
how do we keep the Turkeys from laying claim to the oil fields? It will be hard enough to keep the Kurds from laying claim to the oil fields. I doubt that the planners
intend losing the Northern oil fields to anyone.
15 posted on 03/03/2003 8:17:38 AM PST by latrans (Live Free or Die)
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To: WilliamWallace1999
Done, now 58% NO.
16 posted on 03/03/2003 8:20:19 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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