To: patriciaruth
I vigorously disagree with what the Holy Father is doing here, too, but you can take your anti-Catholicism and stuff it you know where.
To: BlessedBeGod
What effect will this have on Catholic soldiers?
4 posted on
03/03/2003 3:06:05 AM PST by
MEG33
To: BlessedBeGod
Now there's charitable response for you...but it's hardly Catholic bashing to state the truth. The Pope and the Catholic Church would be better served if the Holy See directed this much energy and concern towards solving its internal problems.
41 posted on
03/03/2003 4:46:52 AM PST by
O6ret
To: BlessedBeGod
"I vigorously disagree with what the Holy Father is doing here, too, but you can take your anti-Catholicism and stuff it you know where."There is nobody as anti-Catholic as a Catholic who has become disgusted with the Vatican. That would describe me. I will remain in the Catholic Church, if this dottering, old fool of an excuse for a pontif is called home to God real soon so that he can try to explain his actions (or lack, thereof) to God.
To: BlessedBeGod
What's anti-catholic about stating some facts about the failures of the church?
Both points made were true. The CC has been criminally negligent in dealing with aberrant and criminal priests. The CC was also woefully inadequate in tolerating Hitler.
I'm Episcopalian and I am very embarrassed by our current leadership which doesn't mean I don't love my church.
I just think we need to look honestly at the failures of our church leadership.
128 posted on
03/03/2003 8:44:07 AM PST by
altura
(I love a middle-aged hippy with a gray pony tail!)
To: BlessedBeGod
The Holy Father lives in heaven... this pope you refer to is no holier than you or I. He understands not a whit what peace is about. In order for mankind to have peace with God, a terrible price had to be paid and no man could pay it but for His Son, Jesus the Christ. It is by his suffering and by my faith in him that my sins are covered and that I have my peace with God.
In the world we now inhabit, peace is not free, it comes with a price. You can have peace under a tyrant or you can have peace under the freest form of human government, a democratic republic. The price for peace under a tyrant is fear of murder, torture, of starvation and the utter need not to speak against the powers that be. The price for peace under a democratic republic is law and order and a constant striving to better ones own ability to secure a better future, i.e. self determination.
Catholics chose to live under the peace of a tyrant, Hitler. I'll be damned if the pope takes us down that road again.
To: BlessedBeGod
The Holy Father lives in heaven... this pope you refer to is no holier than you or I. He understands not a whit what peace is about. In order for mankind to have peace with God, a terrible price had to be paid and no man could pay it but for His Son, Jesus the Christ. It is by his suffering and by my faith in him that my sins are covered and that I have my peace with God.
In the world we now inhabit, peace is not free, it comes with a price. You can have peace under a tyrant or you can have peace under the freest form of human government, a democratic republic. The price for peace under a tyrant is fear of murder, torture, of starvation and the utter need not to speak against the powers that be. The price for peace under a democratic republic is law and order and a constant striving to better ones own ability to secure a better future, i.e. self determination.
Catholics chose to live under the peace of a tyrant, Hitler. I'll be damned if the pope takes us down that road again.
To: BlessedBeGod
I see noting anti-catholic in his statement, the popes protection of Hitler is well documented.
264 posted on
03/06/2003 3:54:24 PM PST by
mrb1960
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