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To: RAT Patrol
So shall we ban as a leader any adult who takes a drink? Any man who had been divorced? Any adult who gets a speeding ticket? I for one would not want my son exposed to liquor or lawless behavior. Nor would I want him led by someone who weakens the sanctity and permanence of institution of marriage. How about that? Will you support me in those areas?
134 posted on 03/03/2003 1:40:07 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Drinking is not a sin.

Divorce is not always a sin; it results from a variety of causes; and it is never held up as an example for kids to follow or taught to be in any way equal to non-divorce. It is acknowledged by all to be a failure. If Dale would like to acknowledge his immorality and change his ways then I imagine the BSA would reconsider.

A speeding ticket? There is a legal punishment for that, and the leader, I am sure, would freely tell the kids that he was wrong.

Your examples are apples and oranges. Gayness is a behavior that should not be held up as a positive example for children. Drunkeness, divorce, and speeding maintain their low moral status already.

137 posted on 03/03/2003 1:53:11 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Non-Sequitur
So shall we ban as a leader any adult who takes a drink? Any man who had been divorced? Any adult who gets a speeding ticket? I for one would not want my son exposed to liquor or lawless behavior. Nor would I want him led by someone who weakens the sanctity and permanence of institution of marriage. How about that? Will you support me in those areas?

A leader can be banned for any of these things, or for any other reason, by the unit's sponsoring institution.

Here's an extreme example. A physician who is an abortion provider applies to a unit to become a Scoutmaster. If the sponsor is a Roman Catholic parish, they'd probably say no. If the sponsor is a public school, they might well say yes. It's up to the sponsor.

The determination of whether or not someone is moral enough to be a Scouter is in some very limited cases set by National. In other cases, it's left to the sponsor.

146 posted on 03/03/2003 3:49:42 PM PST by RonF
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