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To: kaylar
I do remember a case with details as you described. If it is the same one - it was in Britain, not America, and in the 1980s. The perps got away with it, because the judge ruled that they had a "reasonable presumption" that the victim was consenting. This caused some controversy. I don't know what happened to the husband.
13 posted on 02/26/2003 3:00:26 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
I thought may case was late 1970s/early 1980s, and occured *somewhere* in the US...but maybe not...OTOH, it would not be without the realm of possibility for two scumbags to come up with the same idea in two different countries....Maybe the UK guy was 'inspired' by the earlier crime, IF I'm right about the time frame.
15 posted on 02/26/2003 3:04:38 PM PST by kaylar
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To: BlackVeil
I do remember a case with details as you described. If it is the same one - it was in Britain, not America, and in the 1980s. The perps got away with it, because the judge ruled that they had a "reasonable presumption" that the victim was consenting.

I studied that case (or one just like it) in law school. As I recall (it has been a few years) an RAF Sergeant went into pub, chatted up a couple of RAF Arimen, and told them he and his wife were into kinky sex. Specifically she liked to act out rape fantasies and he liked to watch. If they cared to the Sergeant said (buying another round) they could accompany him home and have a go at his wife. She of course, he told them, would pretend she didn't know anything about it and beg them to stop...

I think the Sergeant was convicted, but the Law Lords over turned the airmen's conviction holding that given what they had been told they could have believed she was consenting and simply pretending to not consent.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

19 posted on 02/26/2003 3:11:43 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: BlackVeil
for real? that is an absurd ruling.

That wasn't reasonable to me, it was unreasonable presumption since it is a very unusual arrangement between husband and wife or anybody to just walk into a room and pretend rape them. If the men asked her if she was sure she wanted to do that, that would be reasonable.
30 posted on 02/26/2003 7:18:22 PM PST by snowstorm12
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