[Ramius]

My gut tells me that perhaps this wasn't a "training accident". Perhaps that's just a cover for something much more dangerous that went badly, at least in part. There are many heroes lost in "training accidents" that go forever unsung, merely by the nature of what they were asked to do. It's a dangerous business.

Prayers are in order, either way, and I am personally humbled by their service, either way.

[Enlightiator]

prayers are in order...

Yes, it doesn't matter if they were doing spec ops, hauling ash and trash, or training, they put their lives on the line for us. Next time I see a pacifist holding a sign, I'm gonna say better men than you have died for their country, and all you do is whine about poor Sadaam....