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To: Oztrich Boy
As has been pointed out, the sanitizers are not pirates. They perform no unauthorized distribution. They buy a product that is in distribution and modify it. I think you are trying to read into the word "distribution" something that isn't there. The copyright holder's ability to determine what is on the disc ends when the disc leaves the factory.

It would be like GM prohibiting me from buying Cadillacs and turning them into stretch limos. They still got paid for every car. They most certainly cannot prevent me from selling the limos.
23 posted on 02/24/2003 3:53:05 PM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
no the copyright notice on the original packaging is making the claim that the contents are authorized by the copyright holders, which is not the case.

it's the same as cutting the label out of designer fashion clothing and sewing it onto something you designed.

24 posted on 02/24/2003 4:07:28 PM PST by Oztrich Boy
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To: eno_
It seems that there is a great deal of misunderstanding about the extent and nature of copyright and intellectual property laws with respect to media. The reality is quite a bit harsher than what most people believe; what you do in the privacy of your own home with media that you own is almost certainly illegal part of the time.

While I would personally state that I think CleanFlicks should be able to do what they do, it is almost certainly in violation of the law as it is currently written, particularly since CleanFlicks is a public entity. You DO NOT have the right to purchase media and distribute it in any other form, format, or otherwise on any media other than the original without the permission of the copyright owner. This is all thanks to some amendments to the Copyright Act in the 1970s (plus some later lovely additions). The only right to additional sale or rental that CleanFlicks has is of the unmodified original media. Other companies and organizations that do their own minor modifications of various movies have contracts that allow them to make those changes to that media.

The only practical way to do what CleanFlicks does without violating the law is to use some type of metadata system which doesn't currently exist in any meaningful sense (i.e. send out additional data with the movie that a player can use to "sanitize" the movie on the fly). This may be possible in the future when some of the upcoming digital media container formats become ubiquitous, but for now they are pretty much hosed.

43 posted on 02/25/2003 4:53:42 PM PST by tortoise
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