[Torie]

OK, we have tainted money. Probably most big money circulating in the Islamic community is tainted frankly. What anti terrorist measures have they lobbied against, and when, and what was the rationale? Anything else on the bill of particulars? Is the outfit the clone of CAIR (which is an arm of the Saudis Whahabis who fund it according to Schwartz (I think that is the name of that Jewish Sufi), or can one draw distinctions?

[TLBSHOW]

Interesting link to the Islam lobby of our government.
Please take note of names like GN and others.

http://www.amconline.org/newamc/convo/

[Sabertooth]

OK, we have tainted money. Probably most big money circulating in the Islamic community is tainted frankly. What anti terrorist measures have they lobbied against, and when, and what was the rationale? Anything else on the bill of particulars? Is the outfit the clone of CAIR (which is an arm of the Saudis Whahabis who fund it according to Schwartz (I think that is the name of that Jewish Sufi), or can one draw distinctions?

I'm not sure I'd put them at the level of CAIR, I think they're more presentable than that. They lobbied against aspects of the Patriot Act, as I understand things, that were especially useful against Al Arian. So, fortunately the damage in that regard is minimal. However, the meeting with O'Niell at the time Treasury was investigating the possible terror-related finances of their patron, the Safa Trust, in response to that investigation, doesn't smell too good.

Who's going to be convinced if the Safa Trust is cleared?

I'll get back to you on some of the other stuff, I need to get a few things done around here.

Regards.