[Servant of the Nine]

Those are the worst clothes packers of all; slow, big, and easily flattened.

I don't count on anything opening on winter clothing, so I want a big slow bullet that can do the job even if it acts like hardball. If it happens to expand, that's a bonus.

I will agree that the newer bullets like Gold Dot, SXT, Golden Saber all are improvements over the Hydroshok in reliable expansion. All by the same designer too.

Back in the old days when I was licensed I considered a 21/28 Thompson loaded with a drum of 180gr Super Vels the ultimate house gun. It also gave a feeling of security if I had to respond to a burglar alarm from my business.

So9

[PatrioticAmerican]

My fav house gun is a shotgun with 3" #2 steel. The testing on various objects such as clothes and walls suggests serious damage to soft targets while no overpenetration to adjoining homes. Pick any shotgun, but a Mossberg 590 is my choice, and a O/U Baikal is next to it.