Posted on 02/22/2003 8:34:22 PM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
General Julian Hatcher, a noted forensic pathologist, in the early 1900s developed a good formula to determine the theoretical stopping power of a firearm cartridge. His formula has withstood the test of time and validation from other studies and data related to stopping power.
You want a handgun cartridge that has a Hatcher value of over 50 for the most effective stopping power. Values over 55 have diminishing returns in that you dont gain any significant increase in stopping power for the extra recoil and control you must cope with. Handgun cartridges that dont make a value of at least 50, should not considered for self-defense. If the rating of your handgun cartridge is under 30, it only has about a 30% chance of producing a one shot stop. Hatcher Ratings of 30 to 49 raise a one shot stop to approximately a 50% chance. Ratings of 50 or higher produce a one shot stop about 90% of the time.
Handgun Cartridge Type ..................... Hatcher Rating
.45 ACP full metal jacket 230 grain .......... 49.1
.45 ACP jacketed hollow point 230 grain ...... 60.7
.44 Magnum full metal jacket 240 grain ....... 92.3
*.44 Magnum lead wad cutter 240 grain ......... 136.8
.44 Special full metal jacket 240 grain ...... 51.6
*.44 Special lead wad cutter 240 grain ............. 76.5
.41 Magnum full metal jacket 230 grain ............. 54
*.41 Magnum lead wad cutter 230 grain .............. 80
10 millimeter full metal jacket 180 grain .......... 50.3
10 millimeter jacketed hollow point 180 grain ..62.1
.40 S&W full metal jacket flat nose 180 grain ...... 53.4
.40 S&W jacketed hollow point 180 grain ....... 59.4
.38 Special full metal jacket 158 grain ...... 26.7
*.38 Special lead wad cutter 158 grain ............. 39.7
**.357 Magnum full metal jacket 158 grain ..... 32.7
**.357 Magnum lead wad cutter 158 grain ............ 48.5
.357 SIG full metal jacket 147 grain ................ 36.6
.357 SIG jacketed hollow point 147 grain ..... 45.2
9 millimeter full metal jacket 147 grain ............ 32.3
9 millimeter jacketed hollow point 147 grain ... 39.9
.380 Auto jacketed hollow point 95 grain ..... 18.3
.32 Auto jacketed hollow point 71 grain ...... 11.1
.25 Auto jacketed hollow point 50 grain ...... 3.7
.22 Long Rifle jacketed hollow point 40 grain ... 4.2
* Jacketed hollow points will have the same rating as wad cutter bullets if the bullet hollow tip is greater than 1/2 of the caliber of the bullet.
* .357 Magnum ratings are taken from a firearm with a 3 inch barrel. Longer barrels will raise the rating of the round.
Gotta love the story of "Two Gun Charlie"! The world's a smaller place for not having folks like that anymore.
He was something else. I wish there was a photo of him somewhere on the net, this is a guy who could freeze you with a glance. He was BIG - 6'3, probably 250, solid muscle even late in life when I knew him. His head had straight sides and went right down into his neck, if you know what I mean, and his eyes were those cold steel Clint Eastwood grey eyes. There was never any nonsense in his courtroom, and every lawyer in the vicinity had a healthy respect for him. He once ordered the National Labor Relations Board not to set foot in Early County, and the NLRB sent a young lawyer down to ask him what gives. He invited the nice young man into his office, fixed him a Co-Cola, and said, "Now what can I do for you young man?" The lawyer said, "My superiors have sent me to ask you, very respectfully of course, by what authority a Georgia superior court judge can ban a federal agency from a county?" Worrill replied, "Tell your superiors to violate that order, just a little, and we'll see by whose authority." The young man kind of stammered, and said, "I think I am in the wrong place," thanked the judge for the Co-Cola, and left. - this true story was told by one of his former law clerks at his memorial service.
Here's a true story from my dad: he and a bunch of guys went dove hunting with Judge Worrill, and as they walked through a thicket there was a thrashing noise from a little way off, and there was a wild pig. He pawed and snorted, and everybody went up the trees but the judge. The pig charged, and he just stood there while everybody was yelling for him to run. He clubbed his dove gun, smacked the boar up side the head and dropped it in its tracks, then put the muzzle to the pig's head and killed it. Everybody came down out of the trees. The judge was VERY upset - because he cracked the curly walnut stock on his dove gun!
I think that when one considers stopping power of a handgun round it is best to assume worst case scenario (your hollow point does not expand 40% of the time). I do not think that all Julian Hatcher's information is out of date. The point of this article is that bullet weights over 179 grain that are .40 caliber or larger will penetrate more tissue and cause damage thereby hopefully defeating your opponent more effectively than smaller caliber speedy rounds. Some of the information may be incorrect but there are things we can learn from Hatcher's work.
Couldn't agree more, Mom! An old cop friend of mine carried a .44 Special 2-inch Smith as a backup in an ankle holster (He was a large fellow and pants were full cut in those days) years ago in the Houston area. He walked into a robbery at his cleaners where the perps got the drop on him. When Jim saw the two hoods were going to snuff him and the owner, he went for broke.
He took five hits from their two pistols, two 9 mils and three .38s in his body cavity. He returned two rounds. Both were deadly accurate, one through the heart of one bad guy and the other lost the right side of his head. Jim survived and finished out his 20 to retire to fish for anything that swam and play stud poker until a heart attack took him at 70 five years ago.
Jim was a Christian gentleman, a stud player without peer and a crack shot who only pulled his piece to serve and protect his fellow citizens. I miss him every day.
The striped ones were probably Jay Scott grips, right?
Bump G23 ( 14 rounds) G27 ( 10 rounds)
I teach NRA instructors how to teach Personal Protection and Pistol.
Most important selection of a carry handgun is "Functional Reliability".
If you are looking for a cartridge after you have selected a "Functionally Reliable" handgun.
See here MagSafe or MagSafe Inc
chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>
I found that to be true when I used after-market magazines. Never had a problem with Para mags though.
Don't think I can afford $4/bullet even if they are a LOT better.
kAcknor Sez:
It's one of the best, that's for sure. I mis-typed in my post. The house gun is loaded with .38 special 110 gr SJHP over 4.4 grains of Bullseye. The recoil is far better for the wife, and both of us can get a second round off a lot faster.
The last thing I need is a round entering a neighbors house. Even the 12 gause has birdshot loaded for the first two shells. At 15 feet, the plastic wadding is going to do damage!! ;)
"bImejDI' reH betleHlIj yItlhap" (Never leave home without your bat'telh.)
I draw your attention to MagSafe for it's safety and effectiveness.
They can be purchased for less at gun shows and online at places like cheaper than dirt
chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>
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