My apologies. I deliberately assumed that relative value had to do with innocence. Others have used such reasoning to justify the death penalty, or killing in self defense. I assumed you were of the same belief.
So to you, all humans have equal value. I presume you oppose the death penalty. How do you then settle the predicament of 'for-the-life-of-the-mother' situations?
I readily admit that some people mean more to me than others. My kids mean more to me than other kids. My wife more than other women. My life more than other mens'. Again, my wife means more to me than our unborn child.
That is called NATURE beavus (as long as they are not caused by the abortifacient effects of many forms of chemical birth control—i.e. the pill) and we don’t have a problem with God’s design of nature. Haven’t you heard beavus, miscarriage and elective abortion are two completely different things; don’t try to cloud the issue.
So you are not concerned about people who die in plagues or natural disasters? You would not do anything to stop that? Heart attacks, cancer, infections, earthquakes--these are all natural. You oppose any effort to fight them?
I thought the issue was about the value of human life, not just about how people treat each other. Apparently a fetus only has value if another person is making efforts to harm it.
Lastly, you say: “Maybe you will tell me in your own words, if you have any.”
I have limited time to sift through a mountain of links to find the specific answers you have to my questions. Perhaps you'll convince me by your personal responses that it is worth the time.
In context with everything else you have written, could you please clarify for me your position on Roe & Doe
I do not follow the logic of the RvW argument. Not only do I not see how a right to privacy makes abortion a universal right, I do not see how the USC gaurantees a right to privacy (only limitations on search & siezure). Furthermore, I don't see how the USC leads to any trimester cut-offs. In short, I'm either very stupid, or RvW is very bad law.
Your last paragraph speaks volumes: I know that you are not stupid at all. I know and you know that Roe & Doe are “VERY BAD LAWS” You and I have a tremendous amount in common in the context of this paragraph. This is a monumentally complex situation that our world has put itself into, and requires much time to start to fully appreciate it’s magnitude. (many years for me—and I still pull my hair out!)
As a Christian, I am called to care about all of God’s children (EVERYONE), so regarding your “I thought the issue was about the value of human life, not just about how people treat each other. Apparently a fetus only has value if another person is making efforts to harm it.” I will answer thus: God creates—parents pro-create. God gives us everything (Most importantly our immortal souls) He makes us in His image and likeness (with intellect and will) we are each a Masterpiece in the eyes of our Creator, so much so that A pastor once remarked that Heaven is so enthralled with each of us, God’s unique masterpieces, that angels walk before us crying “Behold, a child of God!” I believe this includes U.S. citizens waiting to be born!
The reason that I am a “pro-lifer” and tend to focus on the fetus (Latin for “Little Child”) Is that they are the most in need of assistance. They are not “more important” than toddlers or anyone else; HOWEVER, they are the only people being systematically butchered by a global killing machine that is getting bigger on a daily basis (truly a cancer). If we don’t destroy it, it will destroy us—all of us, born and unborn when we get in it’s way, or are not to it’s liking. EXACTLY like Adolph Hitler. "They came for the Jews but I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t a Jew. They came for the Gypsies but I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t a Gypsy. They came for the homosexuals but I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t a homosexual. They came for the mentally retarded but I didn’t say anything because I wasn’t mentally retarded. Finally they came for me and no one said anything because no one was left to speak." I don’t want to have to say the same thing about myself with regards to today's culture of death as that Lutheran pastor said about the Nazis.
Now that you know me a tiny bit, perhaps my website could prove somewhat helpful (also you can communicate with me if you would like)
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