[dennisw]

All people should enjoy fundamental civil and property rights. Take Israel's foreign aid away and they'll have a little more incentive to provide such rights to all their citizens. No excuses.

Bllsht. I'll plunk you down where the Muslims are, where the Jihadists are, and you'll do one tenth as well. You're just full of liberal anti Israelism. I'll put you in your "no excuses" situation and you'll flunk with flaming colors

[SteveH]

And if we give a 100-fold increase in aid to the Palestinians they would still live in squalor and poverty because their bastard leadership is corrupt, murderous, and exists only to line its (Arafat's) pockets....

Sorry, I didn't catch the logic of the part of your argument that two wrongs make a right.