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The Rev. Frederick Boyle, who will act as a human shield, has become a lightning rod
Daily Record ^ | 02/20/03 | Bob Karp

Posted on 02/20/2003 5:51:42 AM PST by ZULU

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:49:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

To some, the Rev. Frederick Boyle and his fellow "human shields" in Iraq are heroes who are selflessly risking their lives to head off war.

Others have a less charitable view, and note that the Randolph minister and other Americans are violating federal law merely by traveling to Iraq.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: humanshield; iraq; methodists; traitor
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1 posted on 02/20/2003 5:51:42 AM PST by ZULU
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To: ZULU
"I fear they may die for nothing."

They will die for a cause. More power to them. I wish all the leftists would go and be human shields.

2 posted on 02/20/2003 5:53:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: ZULU
I wonder what will happen when Saddam's son Odai rapes one of the human shields? Perhaps they will just accept her fate as a causality of war. It was for a good cause ya know.

Perhaps they will return with fresh insight into the Iraqi "way of life" that will turn them against Saddam. Do you think that Saddam is going to be able to control everything that they see and hear. This should be an experience that they will never forget, if they live to tell about it. Remember he already has several of his cabinet members stuffed in a cabinet to make sure that they don't kill him. Considering the hate that the common people have for Saddam, it is likely that he will be having trouble keeping the masses under his control.


I just hope that if they do live to tell about it that they don't claim that they "were in Desert Storm 2", as if they were for our side.

These people are so stupid that they would be willing to create a shield around a weapon of mass destruction.
3 posted on 02/20/2003 6:15:11 AM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked
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To: AppyPappy
Makes you wonder what would have happened if Nazi-lovers Joe Kennedy and Charles Lindbergh had gone to Berlin in 1943. Answer: they would have died traitorous deaths, as will these warped "patriots" in Iraq.
4 posted on 02/20/2003 6:19:04 AM PST by buccaneer81 (Plus de fromage, s'il vous plait...)
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To: ZULU
Let's make a few things clear.

Some Patriotic American Clergymen:

Samuel Davies (1723-1761)
John Witherspoon (1723-1794) Signer of Decl. of Independence
Archibald Alexander (1772-1851)
Charles Hodge (1797-1878)
Chaplains on USS Dorchester, 1943 -
lst Lt. George L. Fox of Vermont, Protestant
lst Lt. Alexander D. Goode of Washington, D.C., Jewish
lst. Lt. Clark Poling of Schenectady, N.Y., Protestant
lst Lt. John P. Washington of Newark, N.J., Catholic
Martin Luther King Jr. (1925-1968)
Billy Graham (1918 -

An unpatriotic American clergyman:
Fredrick Boyle


Anyone care to add to either list?

5 posted on 02/20/2003 6:45:03 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Beware the barrenness of a busy life. - Socrates)
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To: ZULU
Don't miss the [liberal rag] Daily Record's lovingly photographed icon of this smug leftist:

The Daily Record ran a nearly hagiographic piece on this twit yesterday. I guess outraged reader response must have provoked a second, more 'balanced' look.

6 posted on 02/20/2003 6:50:12 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: ZULU
Like any other blackmailer, a "human shield" should never be catered to. Not one U.S. soldier should die attempting to fight "around" a blackmailer.
7 posted on 02/20/2003 8:02:05 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: SquirrelKing
There was a Reverend during the American Revolution who, at the battle of Springfield (Connecticut Farms) in New Jersey, tore up hymnals for Colonial Troops to use as wadding in their muskets.

Historically, American Clergymen have been in the forefront of those who supported American freedoms (with a few glaring exception like the Quakers - who still plague us today, enjoying those freedoms they refuse to fight for), from the days of the French and Indian Wars through World War 2 and Viet Nam.

Only lately, within the last half-century, has the creeping menace of left-wing radicalism made inroads into the Christian Churchs, particuarly the Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians and Catholics.

Yet even today, there are clergymen like the Catholic priest who died giving last rites to World Trade Center rescuers, and many others, who support America. Unfortunately, the hierarchies of many of these churches do not reflect their views, and the leftist media does not provide them with coverage.
8 posted on 02/20/2003 8:11:36 AM PST by ZULU (You)
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To: SquirrelKing
Some Patriotic American Clergymen:

Anyone care to add to either list?

Rev. Samuel M. Isaacs, Rabbi, Congregation Shaarey Tefilla, New York (1861)

9 posted on 02/20/2003 8:26:04 AM PST by Alouette
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To: SquirrelKing
Add to your list the late John Cardinal O'Connor who before becoming Cardinal was the head chaplin of the USN. He also did a tour of duty in Nam.
10 posted on 02/20/2003 8:30:45 AM PST by mware
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To: ZULU
Hit it on the head. In the benighted scramble to seperate church from state, little attention is given by the media to clergy or parishoners who disagree with liberal views. Unless, of course, its to portray someone as a reactionist nut-job. The embracing of the liberal theology of the post-enlightnement era has rendered many of these main line denominations nearly morally bankrupt. Though many of the people are faithful the governing bodies readily sacrifice on the altars of pluralism and relativism. The old churches of Europe sit empty and many here are heading the same way. It is interesting, and even Limbaugh pointed this out, the churches that have chosen to stay more conservative in their theology are growing!

A great work on this is Christianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen. Here's a link to a site with the full text:

Christianity and Liberalism

The Rev James Caldwell was at the Battle of Springfield. he yelled, "Put Watts into 'em boys! Give 'em Watts" - referring to the great hymnwriter.

11 posted on 02/20/2003 10:09:11 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Beware the barrenness of a busy life. - Socrates)
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To: Alouette
Cool! Bookmarked the link!
12 posted on 02/20/2003 10:12:59 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Beware the barrenness of a busy life. - Socrates)
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To: ZULU
Rev Boyle's email

He should be sent a copy of this.

13 posted on 02/20/2003 10:37:37 AM PST by agrace
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To: ZULU; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah
lightning rod

Soon to be known, I hope, as "JDAM magnet."

14 posted on 02/20/2003 10:42:14 AM PST by dighton
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To: shhrubbery!
I would never allow someone to make a portrait of me "praying." The picture itself is scandalous from a Biblical standpoint. He is holding himself up as a righteous and praying man. The Bible says do just the opposite.

Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. ... "When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. "But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

Mathew 6 1, 5, and 6


15 posted on 02/20/2003 10:56:16 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven
Agreed. The one on this page is worse, imo. It accompanies his own church's article about him being a human shield.


16 posted on 02/20/2003 11:28:21 AM PST by agrace
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To: dighton; ZULU; general_re; Poohbah; BlueLancer
Soon to be known, I hope, as "JDAM magnet."

... or torn to pieces by a post-Saddam mob.

17 posted on 02/20/2003 11:29:12 AM PST by aculeus (The French did somethings right.)
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To: ZULU
"Moreover, if a U.S. soldier is killed while attempting to avoid or evacuate a human shield, some believe the shield could be prosecuted under anti-terrorism laws."

Better to try them for treason - may be easier to get the death penalty.

18 posted on 02/20/2003 11:30:38 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: shhrubbery!
He sure looks the part. He could be from central casting for the role as the hip, young, compassionate minister.
19 posted on 02/20/2003 11:31:10 AM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Agreed.

20 posted on 02/20/2003 11:32:30 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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