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Democrat Targets .50 Caliber Revolver for Nationwide Ban
CNSNews.com ^ | February 17, 2003 | Democrat Targets .50 Caliber Revolver for Nationwide Ban By Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 02/18/2003 6:47:07 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants

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To: Blood of Tyrants
It's already illegal to own ANY handgun in this moron's district - Chicago, West Side.

Therefore, there is NO handgun violence in his district.

Yeah, right!

141 posted on 12/18/2003 6:18:16 PM PST by reg45
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To: NMFXSTC
Who elected these kinds of people

The very same sort that they now worry might get ahold of a gun like this. They don't trust their people much. Also the people who will be the victims, are the victims, of such wrong headed policies as disarming honest folks, when the criminals will always get guns. Look at Englann, it's an island, but there are more armed criminals there now, by a long shot, than before they got crazy and banned everything. (almost)

142 posted on 12/18/2003 6:23:43 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"It's hard for me to rationalize any particular need or purpose" for the 500 Magnum, said Rep. Danny Davis. "I think guns are made to kill people. That's my opinion."

"It's hard for me to rationalize any particular need or purpose for Rep. Danny Davis. I think politicians are made to steal from people. That's my opinion."

143 posted on 12/18/2003 6:25:12 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: 3D-JOY
It might not be more than that...or would it?

Some, maybe twice as much. But put that way, it would cheap at twice the price. (Roadrunner is part of gun hating AOLTIMEWARNERCNN). Since I have no choice but to use Time Warner cable, I'll probably do that, but I'll get Earthlink or a local ISP, not Roadrunner, when I move into my "new" house next month. I'll keep as much of my money out their hands as possible.

144 posted on 12/18/2003 6:28:52 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Travis McGee
Your over under sounds like a modern double express rifle for a dangerous game stopper, sort of.
And two at a time is probably a sufficient rate of fire for this bad boy

I'm figuring a light, takedown [breaks in half at the action hinge] over-and under with a long eye relief *scoutscope* mounted solidly on the upper barrel, with backup fixed sights probably zeroed for the bottom one- which may or may not coincide, depending on fortune, gunsmith's craft and whether or not it might be handy to have one regulated for 50 meters or so, and the other for about 150. The resulting package should fit neatly into lockable motorcycle saddlebags, including the teardrop *Enduro* bags of my old '65 BMW, which could handle a barrel or barrel/receiver length of no more than 21 inches.

The other swell little application I've considered is a 16 inch barrel in a Springfield M6 survival rifle, most usually encountered as a .410/.22 long rifle over-and-under, though the originals and at least some production civilian versions were in .22 Hornet. But I think the S&W .50 would be more useful around elk or moose, or, God forbid, Bear, for which something a bit more authoritative than a .410 slug seems prudent.

Hey, speaking of over-and-unders, wouldn't one of the little American Firearms or Bond derringers, sometimes chambered for rounds up to .45-70 be interesting in the new S&W .50 caliber? You could make folks wince just by showing them such a thing, once they'd fired the S&W dinosaur killer handgun, but with downloaded ammo, I don't think it'd be much worse than a .44 special.

-archy-/-

145 posted on 12/19/2003 10:03:38 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
The breakdown double rifle has merit, but I'll pass on the derringer.
146 posted on 12/19/2003 10:09:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee; El Gato

147 posted on 12/19/2003 10:52:52 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Travis McGee
The breakdown double rifle has merit, but I'll pass on the derringer.

We'll see. But AFAIK, they're not building them in the new S&W caliber yet.

My latest tech project is probably a bit more practical, a reworking of the Browning HP. Much easier on the ears!

-archy-/-

148 posted on 12/19/2003 12:08:57 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The .500 magnum was NOT designed in order to be a more effective weapon against human beings. It is a hunting firearm, for taking down large game. If I was going to kill someone, I would use a suppressed pistol (if I needed stealth), a shotgun (if I wanted to leave as little evidence behind as possible), or a derringer/very small revolver (if the hard part was sneaking the weapon into place).

Any situation in which a .500 revolver could be used, a "Striker" bolt-action handgun or a semi-automatic sniper rifle would easily be a better (and probably more affordable) choices. The only use I could see it having as an anti-person weapon is that it's powerful rounds could be more effective at piercing armor. But a Striker handgun would be even more effective at that (if you want concealment and accuracy) and a semi-automatic sniper rifle would provide much more firepower. I just don't see it as having any real use against people (if it's such a great and terrible weapon, why don't our Navy Seals carry these revolvers?). Of course, this Democrat doesn't know what he's talking about, he just wants to demonize the gun so he can get news headlines.

149 posted on 12/19/2003 12:16:59 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
bump
150 posted on 12/19/2003 12:20:36 PM PST by wjcsux (If Gingrich is a Newt, then Gephart is a Dick.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

How about this baby? AMT Automag in .50 express.
151 posted on 12/19/2003 12:26:21 PM PST by wjcsux (If Gingrich is a Newt, then Gephart is a Dick.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yea! In 3 1/2" magnum, too!

no way, my 870 supermag just about blows my shoulder off with the 3 1/2". My wrist would be permanently in a cast shooting one of those.

152 posted on 12/19/2003 12:34:08 PM PST by holdmuhbeer
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"He claimed handguns in general are specifically designed kill fellow human beings, whereas rifles and shotguns are typically relegated to hunting animals. "You don't go out hunting deer with a revolver," Davis said."

I have called both offices ( Phone: 202/225-5006 Phone: 773/533-7520)with the following information. They seem might embarrassed. Please let them know how YOU feel about the congressamans "error"!

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE (Illinois DNR)
November 13, 2003

ILLINOIS FIREARM DEER SEASON PROVIDES NEW HANDGUN HUNTING OPPORTUNITY; HUNTERS ALSO REMINDED THAT CWD SAMPLING IS PLANNED

SPRINGFIELD, ILL. - When Illinois’ annual firearm deer hunting season opens Nov. 21, hunters will for the first time have the opportunity to use handguns during the seven-day firearm season. New regulations implemented this fall added handguns to the already-allowed use of shotguns and muzzleloading rifles for taking deer during the firearm season.

“From the calls we’ve been receiving and comments we’ve been hearing, it is clear that many hunters are excited about being able to use a handgun during the regular firearm deer season this year,” said Illinois Department of Natural Resources Director Joel Brunsvold. “We are expecting a good deer season. Providing this new opportunity for hunters who choose to use a handgun should be a real plus.”

The regulations allow hunters with permits for the firearm deer season to use centerfire revolvers or single-shot handguns of .30 caliber or larger with a minimum barrel length of four inches. Legal ammunition includes a bottleneck centerfire cartridge of .30 caliber or larger with a case length not exceeding 1.4 inches, or a straight-walled centerfire cartridge of .30 caliber or larger, both of which must be available as a factory load with the published ballistic tables of the manufacturer showing a capability of at least 500 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle. (Non-expanding, military-style full metal jacket bullets cannot be used to harvest deer. Only soft point or expanding bullets, including copper or copper alloy rounds designed for hunting, are legal ammunition).

153 posted on 12/19/2003 12:37:25 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Blood of Tyrants
But Davis said the .50 caliber revolver, which weighs 72.5 ounces and has an overall length 15-inch has no purpose in society except to cause injury and death to humans, dismissing the manufacturer's claim that it is intended for hunting wild game.

A friend took one of these on a fishing trip to Alaska. "My last defense against bears.", he said. He did not need to use it, but said he felt better having it along.

154 posted on 12/19/2003 12:44:36 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (Society has no place in my gun cabinet.)
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To: Garegaupa
The LeMAt was popular among Mosby's raiders, and other mounted units.
155 posted on 12/19/2003 12:48:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (Society has no place in my gun cabinet.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
See my #153.
156 posted on 12/19/2003 12:49:13 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
7 day firearm season? man that sucks, we've got almost 2 months of firearm season in eastern nc.
157 posted on 12/19/2003 12:50:10 PM PST by holdmuhbeer
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Now I know I have to have one.
158 posted on 12/19/2003 12:51:38 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: cinFLA
Why all the sudden interest in this 10 month old post? Just wondering.
159 posted on 12/19/2003 1:00:17 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: b fair
I've hand gun hunted for a lot of years. Both small and large game!

I've hunted with my scoped Ruger Super Redhawk .44 mag on occasion, and while it's just fine for deer, it has a slight overpenetration problem when it comes to squirrel.

160 posted on 12/19/2003 1:11:54 PM PST by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns; it's about control.)
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