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Bull's Eyeful, The sordid saga of Katica Crippen, 2nd Amend. pinup girl. (Project Prison Rape)
Westword ^ | Feb 13 2003 | DAVID HOLTHOUSE

Posted on 02/16/2003 10:54:50 PM PST by coloradan

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The NRA, in an attempt to forestall more gun prohibitions, puts its support with the enforcement of currently existing legislation. With results such as this.
1 posted on 02/16/2003 10:54:50 PM PST by coloradan
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To: *bang_list
Another "success" for Project Exile.
2 posted on 02/16/2003 10:55:25 PM PST by coloradan
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To: coloradan; Shooter 2.5
The NRA, in an attempt to forestall more gun prohibitions, puts its support with the enforcement of currently existing legislation. With results such as this.


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This is nuts. And people wonder why we are fed up with the NRA.
3 posted on 02/16/2003 10:59:36 PM PST by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: BenR2
Hold on. I agree that this woman was treated unjustly, but how is the NRA's position (insisting on the enforcement of existing gun laws rather than the enacting of new ones) the villain? Why doesn't the fault lie with either Congress, for writing bad laws, or with the prosecutors, for not using a little discretion, common sense, etc?
4 posted on 02/17/2003 12:18:54 AM PST by boomstick (Gallia delenda est.)
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To: coloradan
You've got to be kidding. This woman repeatedly violated terms of her probation/parole. She got exactly what she deserved.
5 posted on 02/17/2003 12:26:28 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: BenR2
"We don't need any new nazi gun legislation, why don't we just enforce all of the nazi gun legislation already on the books?"
6 posted on 02/17/2003 12:53:08 AM PST by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: coloradan
These project exile trials are mostly bunk. If these ex-convicts can't be trusted with guns, they are too dangerous to be let out in the first place.

Many states restore the rights of people who have done their time. My own state of Alaska allows EX- cons to earn their rights back, with the exception of the right to own handguns.

Now the fed, in their infinite wisdom, has decided this is too much. They can't even get the right to own long guns.

If these people are rehabilitated, then it is time to restore their rights, all their rights. If they are not, then keep them in prison. They are going to ignore these laws, just like they ignore the others.

7 posted on 02/17/2003 1:15:51 AM PST by snowtigger
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To: Bonaparte
This women has a history of bad judgement and bad "friends", convicting here on this particular trumped up charge will do nothing but tell her she doesn't have a chance in this life, and so why try. That is MHO.
8 posted on 02/17/2003 6:01:59 AM PST by wita
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To: snowtigger
You are absolutely correct on all points. I have attempted to hold my nose and join the nra only once since I was a junior nra member in the 50's. I couldn't hack it. After one year I let my membership lapse. The nra has been hijacked by tools of the anti-gun lobby. I think I'll stick with GOA, JPFO, and SAF, who see right through the nra's game of appeasement and compromise. That's MHO.
9 posted on 02/17/2003 6:08:25 AM PST by wita
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To: Bonaparte
You've got to be kidding. This woman repeatedly violated terms of her probation/parole. She got exactly what she deserved.

I completely disagree.

"I've seen a lot rougher women than me come through and do a lot less time for a lot more violent crimes. They come in for armed robbery, assault, and they're out in a year or less, and I'm still here."

Posing for photos with unloaded guns that aren't hers make her no threat to society. Furthermore, the guy who took the pictures lost them all. Confiscations and B.S. prosecutions are here.

10 posted on 02/17/2003 6:44:04 AM PST by coloradan
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To: coloradan
Let us reveiw the bidding. This............

A.Puts more criminals in prison where they belong.

B. Increases the risk of punishment for drug dealers, robbers and other thugs who want to shoot me or my family.

C.Lowers the rate of violent street crime

D. And the Real Zinger is that it does all this without infringing on the rights of real citizens to keep and bear arms!!!

I think this is wonderful. Those who think the founding fathers wanted to keep fire arms in the hands of drug dealers, gang members and other felons are confused. And they shed a bad light on those of us who truly support the 2nd Amendment.

11 posted on 02/17/2003 6:50:58 AM PST by carpio
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Those who think the founding fathers wanted to keep fire arms in the hands of drug dealers, gang members and other felons are confused.

You are sadly mistaken. There was no crime of "being a drug dealer" in the Framer's time. They themselves were "gang members" and we owe our freedoms to their private affiliations, and felons were not prohibited from having guns until 1968. How could the nation have possibly survived that long?

12 posted on 02/17/2003 7:12:22 AM PST by coloradan
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; backhoe
FYI - long read, but you may be interested.
13 posted on 02/17/2003 7:13:44 AM PST by coloradan
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To: coloradan
Skank Whore ping.

Can anyone tell me why they're shedding tears for this drugdealing gunrunner and not for the photographer who lost his collection?

14 posted on 02/17/2003 7:38:07 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Bonaparte
It is interesting that the feds are interpreting someone handling someone else's firearms as "possession". That is, she was charged with violating her parole for possessing firearms. That is an unusual interpretation of the word, from my perspective. If you hand me your unloaded firearm, and I hold it, would we agree that I now "own" it? No. This is an argument over semantics. The dictionary treats the word possession as a situation of ownership, specifically "to have and hold as property". Even when it used the word in the context of "controlling" it relates to ownership (unless the reference is to demonic possession - yes really.)

So...looks like the way the law is treating "possession" of firearms is different than the way it treats "possession" of a piece of land, or a car, or anything else where you hold title or a purchase receipt.

15 posted on 02/17/2003 7:46:47 AM PST by dark_lord
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To: coloradan
The NRA is behaving like the Jewish policemen in the Warsaw Ghetto, who tried to curry favor with the Nazis by ecouraging Jews to board the trains in an orderly fashion.
16 posted on 02/17/2003 7:54:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (***PACIFISTS ARE THE PARASITES OF FREEDOM***)
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To: Bonaparte
Meanwhile, across the street from every federal building in America illegal criminal invaders are hawking fake ID to anybody with $25. The feds are using a microscope ferreting out paper gun violators, while Iraqis and Saudis are buying fake driver's licenses under their noses unmolested, and there are squatter camps of anonymous illegal aliens in every large downtown park.
17 posted on 02/17/2003 7:57:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Shooter 2.5; Joe Brower; Squantos; PatrioticAmerican; wardaddy; harpseal; Mulder; Noumenon; ...
Because the NRA is part of this sellout, acting EXACTLY like Jewish "capos" to the JBT gun gestapo with their beloved zero-tolerance NRA "Project Exile".

Today it is this poor dumb "skank" as you put it.

Tomorrow it will be YOU, when somebody at the next range table hands you a rifle magazine, and you get 5 years for "possessing" an illegal post ban magazine.

(And folks on this forum will read about your prison tears and say "why are we wasting time on that fool? He broke the law and must pay."

Wake up and smell the coffee. The NRA are nothing more than "Jewish Capos", putting off the day that they are put on the train, by shoving others onto it first.

18 posted on 02/17/2003 8:03:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: coloradan; sneakypete
Thaks for the ping.
19 posted on 02/17/2003 8:05:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: coloradan
Define "possessing". Does merely touching an unloaded gun constitute "possession"?

I'd bet any money that if she had stayed dressed she wouldn't have gotten in trouble.

-Eric

20 posted on 02/17/2003 8:08:35 AM PST by E Rocc
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